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Plenty of variation from country to country but most that I’ve come across accept bleeping out profanity as a way to deal with it (or muting) - the claim in the original post was that it wouldn’t be enough to just bleep in a lot of countries, then used one country as “proof”. |
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As the governing body, its part of the FIA's remit to be issuing regulations regarding the drivers' conduct on and off the track. However, there needs to be some differentiation between the two. If there was any line crossing, it was in the way the FIA handled the situation. Having Verstappen hauled up in front of the stewards seemed like a very clumsy way of dealing with it; it wasn't a track violation and it brought the whole thing out into the open. It would have been far better, if the FIA had taken Verstappen aside and had a quiet word with him and had got him to issue an apology. |
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This is worth watching and puts the whole issue into perspective. https://youtu.be/AsUJJ1Fi3OQ?si=K9jfufQt_vRBWPwC |
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I don't view this as a black and white topic in which drivers are free to do whatever they want when they are not in the car. I think many if not most sports leagues typically have some set of "morality" clauses. That if someone is acting in an overly unacceptable way, be it illegal or even legal, there is ability for the regulators to apply pressure. The line in the sand (and how MBS drew the line) is ridiculous. Especially given there are much easier solutions to this "problem". I think the drama around it has proven to be more of a "problem" than the original "problem" if the original "problem" was even a "problem". In my professional life, I commonly work to define roles and responsibilities with regards to operational processes. This is codified by a "Responsibility assignment matrix" (aka RACI chart or matrix) along with "Separation of Duties". When creating these, you have to extract the individuals out of the equation and look at the role. For example, in the discussion, you might say "The CFO should not have direct spend authority without appropriate oversight". Those in the negotiation might be dismayed at the implied attack on the current CFO. They will say "Hey, Bob has done an excellent job so far, why strip him of responsibilities?" The answer might be... Bob currently does NOT attempt spends without reviews. Bob has wide latitude, but he doesn't abuse that. So take Bob out of the picture and consider this rule against a "generic CFO". Just because Bob does a great job, doesn't mean the role should not have limits. The next guy in the role might "play be the rules" and show himself as a real issue as the rules are too free. My point is... The FIA, IMHO, has too much power here. That just because "it has been done this way for years" is not an argument for it being OK. It hasn't been done this way for years. For years, this was not a problem because nobody was pushing like this. Now that it is, the argument is.... "This is within the rights of the FIA". So the question should be (even if we all agree it was handled poorly)... "Should it be?" With that being said, it likely would be in someone's hands. My posts on this topic keep asking by FIA is involved in commercial topics (frankly the media interactions is much closer to the commercial side). So it would seem that I am advocating that it be controlled by FOM instead of FIA. I think FIA should continue to have expected driver behavior governance when it comes to sporting activities. When it comes to commercial activities such as required media and/or sponsor activities (as two big examples), then it should come down to both the teams (as employer of the drivers) and FOM (as overall series commercial owner). Richard |
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The simplest answer is because they are the governing body and therefore they can. However, in the video I posted, one of the pundits Scott Mitchell-Malm refers to MSB and his grand role model crusade, so therefore the FIA has made it its responsibility to govern drivers' conduct off the track, in order to pursue this grand role model crusade, with the required attendance at press conferences being part of that. Quote:
You are right, the FIA do have too much power and governance should be split, with the FIA having governance over driver behavior when it comes to the sporting activities and commercial governance like press interviews controlled by FOM, after all they are the commercial rights holder. |
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Max also attended all press conferences he was meant to - just said very little in them and had more to say outside. Max certainly wasn't punished for "an incoherent rant" but for saying that his car was ****ed in an FIA press conference. He dropped one F-bomb in total and whilst personally I'd have probably avoided that (or at least tried to) the FIA could have taken a far better path about it rather than simply punishing Max. If MBS really want's to reduce swearing (good luck with in a motorsport work environment - just ask Ted Kravitz) then he needs to win hearts & minds, which he won't do by handing out punishments. |
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Balestre of course DID threaten to withhold Senna's licence until Senna retracted some negative things he'd said about Balestre but these days I agree that the FIA would leave itself open to legal challenge. This really has been a mountain from a molehill / storm in teacup situation that could have SO easily been avoided. |
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