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Old Yesterday, 05:57 (Ref:4230069)   #51
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Ares should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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What a joke. They've reduced the 'Pinnacle' of Australian Motor Sport to the equivalent of World Wrestling as a sporting contest.

Not an original idea among the lot of them. 'The Americans do it so we'll just blindly copy them'

Here's an idea. Do something to make the racing better. Allow a bit of hard hard racing instead of penalizing drivers for every little thing. and they won't need gimmicks to try to make it exciting.

It's also a fact of life that not all sporting contests are exciting 100% of the time. If a drive/team does a superior job and dominates on merit. That just happens. People have to live with it.
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Old Yesterday, 06:40 (Ref:4230070)   #52
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What a joke. They've reduced the 'Pinnacle' of Australian Motor Sport to the equivalent of World Wrestling as a sporting contest.

Not an original idea among the lot of them. 'The Americans do it so we'll just blindly copy them'

Here's an idea. Do something to make the racing better. Allow a bit of hard hard racing instead of penalizing drivers for every little thing. and they won't need gimmicks to try to make it exciting.

It's also a fact of life that not all sporting contests are exciting 100% of the time. If a drive/team does a superior job and dominates on merit. That just happens. People have to live with it.
Tell us what you really think Trev . Yeah, can't argue with any of that. Sounds like they're making it really complicated too - just feels like a fair chance that & then
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Old Yesterday, 13:48 (Ref:4230123)   #53
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Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Private testing gone, as well as a lot of practice laps:
https://speedcafe.com/supercars-axes...ting-for-2025/
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Old Today, 05:10 (Ref:4230196)   #54
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Trev Campbell should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridTrev Campbell should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I've been thinking and trying to determine why I hate the 'Finals' idea SO MUCH. And as with most things it multi faceted. I think being the age I am, I'm still in love with the thought of the purity of the sporting contest and what joy (And heartbreak that can bring). Some of my earliest sporting memories that really struck home the power of sport, are the 83 America's Cup, Dean Lukin and the 4000m Teams Pursuit at the 84 Olympics, underdogs achieving the ultimate goal. None of which was manufactured, These people/teams made their 'finals' on merit and ended up triumphing against the odds.

I watched the Wednesday Night Bathurst thing where all the Supercars heavies and Commentators spruiked the finals series as the greatest thing since sliced bread. And Larko made a comment 'We've only had the series decided at the final round in 20 (And forgive the exact number being incorrect) out of 54 times, and that's bad'

Which is where the issue is. It's not bad. It's what makes the good years great.

Unforgettable deciders:

1979 - Privateer Morris Vs Brock and the MHDT
1981 - Johnson and Brock nose to tail around Lakeside in the finale
1987 - Young gun Seton Vs Richo
2005 - Ingall hanging on for his only title
2006 - Kelly punting Lowndes
2010 - Everyone in the fence
2017 - McLaughlin vs 888

These are all memorable for various reasons and didn't need to be manufactured, it occurred due to circumstance. And they are all the more memorable because some of the years around them are less memorable.

What Supercars is doing trying to falsely create a 'çliffhanger' every year. It will make every year a virtual carbon copy of the previous year. Nothing will stand out, a cliffhanger will no longer be exciting because it will be a common occurrence and as a result have the opposite affect of what they are after. Punters won't be excited by the 'Final' because they can see it any and every year.

They are just trying to generate 'Excitement' in order to try to squeeze more money out of punters and in the process have in my opinion devalued a championship win. And over time will remove the memories of 'real' exciting events and finals will all become 'blah blah blah'

It's probably just me and my view of the sad inditement of world currently, where everyone needs to win, everything needs to be fair, everyone needs to be excited or entertained all the time.

Unfortunately, life isn't like that, and neither should sport.
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Kingair should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridKingair should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I concur with Trev.

It will be a bit like Farmer Wants a Wife, meets The Block and then MKR!

Perhaps in the last week of the final all the drivers could compete in a baking competition, along with a dancing competition?
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