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Old 22 Jul 2024, 13:46 (Ref:4220264)   #501
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Why would there be an asterisk?

Shall we put an asterisk on Mika Hakkinen's first win as well?
Totally different circumstances. And Mika got out of that club.

There again, Piastri may be gifted another win.
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Old 22 Jul 2024, 15:12 (Ref:4220267)   #502
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Why would there be an asterisk?

Shall we put an asterisk on Mika Hakkinen's first win as well?
in fairness, just by bringing up that situation (coincidently also in a McLaren and it giving them their first 1-2 in ages) is in and of itself an acknowledgement that Mika's first win does have some sort of defacto asterisk attached to it.

which in a way means that OP can go on to win multiple titles and still his first win will always have a similar sort of asterisks attached to it.

not a bad thing mind you, its a team sport and all that jazz, just saying that fans with long memories naturally attach asterisks to all sorts of things!

anyways, hope his 2nd win comes soon because after that is when we will see the real fireworks erupt between this young and very talented pairing.
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Old 23 Jul 2024, 06:29 (Ref:4220324)   #503
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Totally different circumstances. And Mika got out of that club.

There again, Piastri may be gifted another win.
Just like Lando was gifted the Miami Grand Prix.
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Old 23 Jul 2024, 10:07 (Ref:4220334)   #504
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Just like Lando was gifted the Miami Grand Prix.
By whom? Max? I son't think so. By Piastri who finished well down the order 50 seconds back?
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By whom? Max? I son't think so. By Piastri who finished well down the order 50 seconds back?
By the safety car. Oscar has more wins than lando in F1 despite years less experience.
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Totally different circumstances. And Mika got out of that club.

There again, Piastri may be gifted another win.
How very British of you
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Both McLaren drivers joint the "one hit wonders" club this year and both get themselves out of the club this year - surely that must be a first for a team to have both drivers do that in one season? Well, other than 1950 with Fangio and Farini of course, but to be expected in the first year of F1.

Oh and big congratulations to both Lando and Oscar - both having a stellar (see what I did there?) year so far.
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Blimey, I never knew Farini was a double winner.
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Both McLaren drivers joint the "one hit wonders" club this year and both get themselves out of the club this year - surely that must be a first for a team to have both drivers do that in one season? Well, other than 1950 with Fangio and Farini of course, but to be expected in the first year of F1.

Oh and big congratulations to both Lando and Oscar - both having a stellar (see what I did there?) year so far.
Did Ralf and Montoya do it in the early 2000's in the Williams ??? Thats the only other possibility I can think of off the top of my head.

Also for the stats guys, With Russell, Norris and Piastri all getting out of the one hit wonder club this year. Is that a record ???
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Did Ralf and Montoya do it in the early 2000's in the Williams ??? Thats the only other possibility I can think of off the top of my head.
Ralf got on and off the list in 2001.
Montoya got on the list, but didn't move off it until 2003 I think.
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Also for the stats guys, With Russell, Norris and Piastri all getting out of the one hit wonder club this year. Is that a record ???
Looking at Championship Race Wins only:

1974 - 4 - Niki Lauda, Carlos Reutemann, Jody Scheckter, Clay Regazzoni
1979 - 4 - Alan Jones, Gilles Villeneuve, Jacques Laffite, Patrick Depailler
1983 - 4 - Riccardo Patrese, Michele Alboreto, Keke Rosberg, Patrick Tambay

1954 - 3 - Mike Hawthorn, Bill Vukovich, José Froilán González
1980 - 3 - Nelson Piquet, René Arnoux, Jean-Pierre Jabouille
1985 - 3 - Ayrton Senna, Nigel Mansell, Elio de Angelis
2009 - 3 - Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Mark Webber
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Thanks for the stats crmalcolm. It's happened more often than I imagined !!!
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