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Old 13 Jun 2013, 10:48 (Ref:3262041)   #1
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Most beautiful sound in the world?

I swear to god, after watching this video, I don't think bird song is beautiful anymore:

BAR 006

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Old 13 Jun 2013, 10:56 (Ref:3262050)   #2
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You've got to get yourself some Matra or BRM old mate if you think that Honda rubbish is good.
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 10:57 (Ref:3262052)   #3
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Well, can you post some links?
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 11:59 (Ref:3262091)   #4
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Marcus666,

Just log into Youtube and search BRM, and listen to something like "**NEW** BRM V16 Sound" which run for something like 7 minutes of soundtrack around Goodwood. If you don't think that this is one of the most moving motor racig engine sounds, well I don't know what shakes your tree.

18 to 20,000 RPM from a V10 or V8 can sound pretty good but to me there is nothing like some of those earlier F1 engines.

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Old 13 Jun 2013, 12:45 (Ref:3262113)   #5
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Well, can you post some links?
I cant fix all your problems
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 14:08 (Ref:3262145)   #6
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Here we go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1v6HBWZd2I
Matra Engine LeMans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZwlI6U3pLg
What an F1 car should look and sound like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXtpMngivM
All time best engine sound! Mazda 787B

That Honda is right up there, the V10s were awesome!
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 18:48 (Ref:3262249)   #7
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 18:57 (Ref:3262252)   #8
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To my humble opinion best sounds are made by V12 Matra and flat 12 Ferrari.
Here you can listen the Matra at Paul Ricard not long ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUGceCoAn3Y
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 19:41 (Ref:3262271)   #9
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Renault 6 turbo on full qually boost

McLaren TAG on race boost

BMW 4 cylinder on boost

Honda V12 with someone on it who knows how to drive it.

DFV revving its guts off in an FW07

1.5 litre Climax V8 being thread though the Ring like a needle in silk

The bark of a DFR or HB V8 on a street circuit

A Renault V10 on full howl

Pretty much anything before we all had to hear the same sound every meeting.
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 19:43 (Ref:3262273)   #10
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Oh and the BRM V16

Quite the most incredible, unique, staggeringly spellbinding sound you will ever hear other than perhaps a Merlin rolling out of a dive

How man make these things is beyond me and makes me both proud we did it and sad we are now a total shell of that country
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 22:37 (Ref:3262350)   #11
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Oh and the BRM V16
Wasn't there also an H16?

Ferrari's V12s were amazing, the lasts ones screamed to 17,000 rpm!

Some early 90's Ferrari noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYF3T2LMZCM

Mclaren Honda V12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbgqBnHrMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lKIoqoJy0M

Nice! And then they start the engine.
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 23:42 (Ref:3262365)   #12
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Wasn't there also an H16?

Mclaren Honda V12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbgqBnHrMQ
Sweet sounds.

This is pretty good too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmVoxw4s2s

Ferrari V12 vs. V10 vs. V8

It is very difficult to get good sound on the older cars travelling at full chat!
The Matra V12 and Mazda Rotary sounded very different in their day when driven to the absolute limit by professional racing drivers in competition to what they sound like today on demonstration runs.

The modern engines are very good because of the stratospheric rev limits and perfect firing due to FI and electronic engine management.

Love the sound of the full power gear shifts, not the sporting implications so much, but then you take what you can get!

Perhaps Bernie is right regarding the importance of the sound, what do you reckon?
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 01:44 (Ref:3262391)   #13
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Perhaps Bernie is right regarding the importance of the sound, what do you reckon?
Yeah! Absolutely! But noise is just wasted energy, and that's why turbos are so boring, but they do kill two birds with one stone. They harness what would be otherwise wasted energy and stop the people who built their houses next door to motor racing circuits from complaining.
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 02:11 (Ref:3262396)   #14
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Here we go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1v6HBWZd2I
Matra Engine LeMans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZwlI6U3pLg
What an F1 car should look and sound like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXtpMngivM
All time best engine sound! Mazda 787B

That Honda is right up there, the V10s were awesome!
That was brilliant...
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 07:09 (Ref:3262468)   #15
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Wasn't there also an H16?
Ferrari's V12s were amazing, the lasts ones screamed to 17,000 rpm!

Some early 90's Ferrari noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYF3T2LMZCM

Mclaren Honda V12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbgqBnHrMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lKIoqoJy0M

Nice! And then they start the engine.
An H16? That's right, basically two V8's on top of each other! I'm sure there's an even more complicated way of doing things somehow!
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 07:14 (Ref:3262471)   #16
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An H16? That's right, basically two V8's on top of each other! I'm sure there's an even more complicated way of doing things somehow!
Isnt that a W 16 ?
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 07:34 (Ref:3262478)   #17
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And outside the box slightly, Merlin and Griffon plus a few radials!
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 07:59 (Ref:3262492)   #18
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Isnt that a W 16 ?
No it was an H16 just as Viva GT posted above.

I have never seen or heard one of them run properly, always sounded a very rough and unhappy engine.

On the other hand the BRM V12 was a peach in its day and they would have done a lot better to stick with it. Great engine!

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Old 14 Jun 2013, 08:49 (Ref:3262535)   #19
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One of the best sounds ever - goosebumps every time.

Also don't forget - Metro 6R4 Now that is a good noise.
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No it was an H16 just as Viva GT posted above.

I have never seen or heard one of them run properly, always sounded a very rough and unhappy engine.

On the other hand the BRM V12 was a peach in its day and they would have done a lot better to stick with it. Great engine!
H16 must have run well on at least one occasion as Jim Clark won a GP (US?) with one stuffed in the back of his Lotus.

The V12 was a good engine although not sure how much development it had left in it as a GP unit.

Mazda 787, anybody? Or was that too much of an assault on the ears? Must confess the BRM V16 is probably my favourite sound. I remember, in period, a brief demonstration of the 1997 Arrows by Damon Hill at Brands which sounded pretty fantastic. Was that a Yamaha or Toyota engine in that? Mind you it only lasted a couple of laps before it started chucking out water! Listening from my tent to the Corvettes and DBR9s at night at the 2007 Le Mans left a good lasting impression, too.
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Old 14 Jun 2013, 09:53 (Ref:3262571)   #21
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One of the best sounds ever - goosebumps every time.

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This works for me every time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXtpMngivM

Mazda 787B


and then there is the Howmet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4PMalIwoo0

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Isnt that a W 16 ?
No, a W16 is like two V8's side by side (W = VV)
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An H16 is 2 flat 8s, one on top of the other.
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