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24 Jan 2002, 11:30 (Ref:203582)
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2003 Driver line ups!
I know 2002 hasn't started yet but hear me out. During a 'quiet' spell at work myself and a friend reconned on the following changes for 2003.
1. Hakkinen will not return, he couldn't drive when he never saw the sprog, whats he going to be like when he's a whole year with it? 2. JV will leave BAR to take the empty seat at Mclaren alongside Kimi. 3. That seat was left empty by the departure of DC, who replaces the fired Sato at Jordan. 4. Alonso replaces Button at Renault after another rubbish season. 5. Button and Sato, upset at being fired, decide to travel to each race anyway and form a protest outside the paddock gates. 
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24 Jan 2002, 13:06 (Ref:203610)
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Hakkinen will drive for Ferrari. BAR will improve, Jacques stays put. Rubens.... probably he'll do an "Irvine" and goes to Toyota. Macs and Willies - no change (that is if Pablo can keep the car in one piece. Otherwise he'll be back in America and Button comes back)
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24 Jan 2002, 15:09 (Ref:203665)
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i don't think Hakkinen will drive for Ferrari...why would Ferrari prepare to send Michael off and then pull in another driver of the same age? They would get somebody younger...and my bet is on one of the following ==> Juan/Nick/Fisi/Massa
I see Mclaren would replace DC if he still fail to deliver this year...perhaps with Nick or even a slim chance of Mika... DC would probably head off to Jordan (replace Fisi) or to Jaguar to replace Irvine (who heads off to retire) JV may find himself in Jaguar, and Alonso may get a seat in Renault.. In short Here's what i foresee as possible: Ferrari = 1)Michael 2)Nick/Massa/Fisi Williams = 1)JPM 2)Jenson Mclaren = 1)Mika/Nick 2)Kimi Renault = 1)Trulli 2)Alonso Jaguar = 1)DC/JV/Ralf/Rubens 2)de la Rosa Jordan = 1)DC/Panis/Fisi 2)Sato BAR = 1)Panis 2)JV/HHF/new driver Toyota = 1)Salo 2)HHF/JV/Ralf/Rubens Arrows = 1)Enrique 2)HHF Sauber = 1)Massa 2)Webber?/New driver Minardi = 1)Alex Yoong 2)Webber/Jos/New driver Prost = would it even survive? Last edited by Gt_R; 24 Jan 2002 at 15:13. |
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24 Jan 2002, 19:09 (Ref:203789)
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I think you will find Mika returns in 2003 and drives for Mclaren - he is this year testing with Wurz to keep upto date.
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24 Jan 2002, 20:10 (Ref:203803)
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Heidfeld at Ferrari? I don't think McLaren or Mercedes would let him out of his contract without a fight. They probably have him down as a replacement for DC either in 2003 or 2004.
I think Williams will stay the same, because this year they have what Patrick Head expects to be the best pairing on the grid, and Williams would be foolish to let that go. Button will leave Renault and be replaced by Alonso, which will leave Button with the possible option of Jaguar. |
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24 Jan 2002, 20:41 (Ref:203814)
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Having covered this subject several times. Hakkinen will be back at McLaren alongside Kimi.
Juan will be at Ferrari Button back at Williams |
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24 Jan 2002, 20:57 (Ref:203831)
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I think Hakkinen returning is simply wishfull thinking on the part of his fans. He was scheduled to do somewinter testing with the team but has since cancelled it. We have seen the last of Hakkinen (in F1 at least).
There is no way JPM will be at Ferrari in 2003. This is for 2 reasons. Firstly M. Schumacher, secondly what manager in their right mind would let him go, sure is hell not Frank Williams. |
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24 Jan 2002, 21:04 (Ref:203841)
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Williams would be mad to keep him!!
Button is the better prospect. |
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24 Jan 2002, 21:20 (Ref:203852)
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Please explain why. JPM performed far better in his first year than Button did, he's quicker, more talented and less intimidated by the big boys. He will also be WDC in 2002 (although going by Frank Williams' logic this means he'll also be sacked at the end of 2002
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24 Jan 2002, 21:28 (Ref:203863)
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JM is a spoilt brat and doesn't deserve a Williams seat. Button outscored him by 1 point (201 to 200)
Montoya doesn't stand a chance at the 2002 title ans Williams have to be reliable and that seems unlikely. |
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24 Jan 2002, 21:35 (Ref:203869)
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The reason Button outscored Montoya is because the 2000 Williams was more reliable than the 2001 Williams so Button finished more races thus scored more points. Montoya was robbed of 2 wins at least, last year, Button never came close in 2000. |
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24 Jan 2002, 22:26 (Ref:203890)
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24 Jan 2002, 22:48 (Ref:203897)
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Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Rubens Barrichello Williams Juan Pablo Montoya Ralf Schumacher McLaren Kimi Raikkonen Nick Heidfeld Renault Jarno Trulli Fernando Alonso Jordan Giancarlo Fisichella Takuma Sato Sauber Felipe Massa Olivier Panis Jaguar Pedro de La Rosa James Courtney BAR Jacques Villeneuve Eddie Irvine Arrows Heinz-Harald Frentzen Enrique Bernoldi Toyota David Coulthard Ryan Briscoe Minardi Alex Yoong Mark Webber Prost (let's hope they're still around) Jonathan Cochet Justin Wilson I don't know! |
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24 Jan 2002, 22:52 (Ref:203902)
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Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Juan Montoya Williams David Coulthard Ralf Schumacher McLaren Kimi Raikkonen Nick Heidfeld Renault Jarno Trulli Fernando Alonso Jordan Giancarlo Fisichella Takuma Sato Sauber Felipe Massa Olivier Panis Jaguar Pedro de La Rosa Heinz Harald Frentzen BAR Jacques Villeneuve Eddie Irvine Arrows Jos Verstappen Rubens Barichello Toyota Mika Salo Ryan Briscoe Minardi Alex Yoong Mark Webber Prost Jonathan Cochet Justin Wilson |
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25 Jan 2002, 22:34 (Ref:204476)
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Maybe chuck Alex Wurz in there somewhere too.
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26 Jan 2002, 09:17 (Ref:204616)
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Ferrari
TGF Felipe Massa McLaren Nick Heidfeld Kimi Raikkonen Williams Juan Pablo Montoya Ralf Schumacher Jordan Giancarlo Fisichella Takuma Sato Sauber Alex Wurz Luca Badoer BAR Olivier Panis Toranosuke Takagi Renault Jarno Trulli Fernando Alonso Jaguar Pedro de la Rosa David Coulthard Arrows Heinz-Harald Frentzen Enrique Bernoldi Toyota Mika Salo Jos Verstappen Minardi Alex Yoong Mark Webber Prost (if they even survive) Pick two Frenchies |
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26 Jan 2002, 10:56 (Ref:204632)
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Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Juan Pablo Montoya Williams Ralf Schumacher Jenson Button McLaren Kimi Raikkonen Mika Hakkinen Renault Jarno Trulli Fernando Alonso Jordan Giancarlo Fisichella Takuma Sato Sauber Nick Heidfeld Felipe Massa Jaguar Pedro de La Rosa Eddie Irvine BAR Darren Manning Olivier Panis Arrows Heinz-Harald Frentzen Enrique Bernoldi Toyota Allan McNish Ryan Briscoe Minardi Alex Yoong Augusto Farfus Prost (if still around) David Coulthard Mika Salo |
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26 Jan 2002, 13:15 (Ref:204684)
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Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Felipe Massa Williams Juan Pablo Montoya Ralf Schumacher McLaren Kimi Raikkonen Nick Heidfeld Renault Fernando Alonso Jarno Trulli Sauber Mark Webber Heinz Harald Frentzen/Olivier Panis Jordan Giancarlo Fisichella David Coulthard Jaguar James Courtney Pedro De La Rossa BAR Jaques Villeneuve Takuma Sato Arrows Jos Verstappen Jenson Button Toyota Rubens Barichello Alex Wurz Minardi Alex Yoong (again) Justin Wilson Prost Enrique Bernoldi Tomas Enge Last edited by timbo2001; 26 Jan 2002 at 13:17. |
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26 Jan 2002, 23:31 (Ref:204981)
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ferrari......................jpm and jenson
mclaren......................eddie and kimi minardi......................tgf and dc i can dream can't i?? |
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27 Jan 2002, 22:33 (Ref:205529)
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Ferrari
Michael Schumacher & Juan Montoya Mclaren Mercedes Mika Hakkinen & Kimi Raikonnen Williams BMW Ralf Schumacher & Jenson Button Renault Jacques Villeneuve & Janno Trulli Jordan Honda Giancarlo Fisicella & Takuma Sato Toyota Mika Salo & Allan Mcnish Jaguar David Coulthard & Eddie Irvine Sauber Nick Heidfeld & Massa Arrows Bernoldi & Barrichelo Minardi, BAR, Prost - whoever is available, lacks talent, and has sponsorship.  I think Button will get the break of his life when Montoya signs for Ferrari because Frank would want someone with experience to partner Ralf - and that would rule out Pizzonia and Gene who can both go quicker than Button in my opinion. So Button will get lucky. And Jacques will finally leave the hell hole known as BAR. As a Canadian, I want to see him win at least a couple of more races before he goes! And Michael & Montoya will be exciting to watch as well. So lets see how it goes! |
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27 Jan 2002, 23:11 (Ref:205553)
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As long as everyone is completely full of it and posting such absurd prognostications, I declare that with the exception of my last entry, ...
Hakkinen is NOT returning, (though I wish he would) Sir Frank has found a talented driver who has balls, he's not about to let him go to Ferrari. No one will be wiling to drive alongside TGF and Ralf will be forced out of Williams and could well land at Jaguar who will thankfully see the last of Swerve. BAR will rebuild from the ground up, and do it right this time. However, thaose plans won't include Villeneuve who could honestly be facing his final season in F1. The only way that Jacques could EVER end up at MaCaroon, would be if his pal DC were to stay on. Ron would never tolerate JV's manner,but with DC as the polished "Media Front Man", the Canadian might have a chance. However, sponsors would cringe at the prospect of a Q & A media seession with Kimi and Villeneuve. Ferrari Michael Schumacher & any a few F3 drivers who would be willing to sacrifice their careers for 17 races of Glory. Mclaren Mercedes Heidfeld & Raikonnen Williams BMW Montoya & Button Renault Trulli & Alonso Jordan Honda Fisichella & Sato Toyota Salo & HHF Jaguar Ralf & Villenneuve Sauber Panis & Massa Arrows Bernoldi & ? Minardi Webber & and some unknown BAR Fukuda & Manning Bugatti (Prost) gobs of VW bucks JV & JV |
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28 Jan 2002, 00:50 (Ref:205586)
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as tgf won't be going anywhere, the key to any driver moves will be down to jpm.......the driver market won't take shape until he's signed a contract somewhere!!
still, it's fun to speculate in the off season......only 33 days to go!!
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28 Jan 2002, 01:31 (Ref:205600)
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Unfortunately doesn't look likely, but I'm gonna dream anyway. Actually whilst I'm dreaming, I might plonk myself in the driver seat. On to Melbourne 2003! |
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28 Jan 2002, 06:19 (Ref:205663)
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28 Jan 2002, 14:22 (Ref:205756)
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