Pull-throughs

Quested · 12 Jun 2004, 14:56 (Ref:1001781)

Lowndes did it, Bright has done it, Skaife has done it, and now Marcos has done it... coming through from the back of the pack to get on the podium or win the race.

What is it about V8 Supercar racing, or the drivers involved, that makes this happen? I guess it's not something that is common in other forms of motorsport, so is there something about our category that encourages this or makes it possible or more likey?

I'd be interested in any thoughts.

deeks6 · 12 Jun 2004, 18:52 (Ref:1002009)

From the names you mentioned...
I'd say talent may have something to do with it - just a wild guess...

Bigguy · 12 Jun 2004, 21:50 (Ref:1002096)

I'd say it IS common in other forms of motorsport! IT is just so rare in V8 racing that it stands out as being special.

Aarrgh8 · 12 Jun 2004, 22:14 (Ref:1002108)

Sprintcar racing, anyone?

retro · 12 Jun 2004, 22:26 (Ref:1002124)

I keep saying it's not the same Ambrose this year - a bit more *mongrel* (aggression) in him this year maybe.

Richo will need to do sommething special today as well.

Conrod Kieron · 12 Jun 2004, 23:09 (Ref:1002139)

Ambrose also did it last year at QLD after the drive through. Some of these pull-throughs are no doubt boosted along by safety cars, pit stop timing and excellent pit stops so again we come back to the team effort. Its stirring to watch a driver (red or blue) come back through the field though.

tiko · 12 Jun 2004, 23:10 (Ref:1002140)

Yeah Retro I think Richo is going to have to do something ver yspecial today, probably uncharacteristic but they call it agression. He clearly has the speed and hes not out of the championship fight.

retro · 13 Jun 2004, 01:20 (Ref:1002191)

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Originally posted by tiko
Yeah Retro I think Richo is going to have to do something ver yspecial today, probably uncharacteristic but they call it agression. He clearly has the speed and hes not out of the championship fight.

There is some noise around the pits about the *Accumulator* nick for Richo - apparently some drivers can see the funny side of this even though it's not strictly true.

I hope the *Accumulator* can still get some decent points today to keep the championship from becoming too boring.

and he might be able to do it - check out the warm up times

tiko · 13 Jun 2004, 01:27 (Ref:1002193)

Anyone know why he only did 4 laps?

pigsy · 13 Jun 2004, 01:49 (Ref:1002200)

Quote:

Originally posted by tiko
Yeah Retro I think Richo is going to have to do something ver yspecial today, probably uncharacteristic but they call it agression. He clearly has the speed and hes not out of the championship fight.

Not by morning warmup times he won't. 4 laps in 29th position 1.4 seconds off the pace.
Yet then again Marcos was 20th in Warmup 0.7 seconds behind.

retro · 13 Jun 2004, 01:59 (Ref:1002202)

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Originally posted by tiko
Anyone know why he only did 4 laps?

Blew an engine (from another forum)

tiko · 13 Jun 2004, 02:21 (Ref:1002204)

They could be pushing for time to get and engine changed in the time frame!
Things turn from bad to worse for Richo

Conrod Kieron · 13 Jun 2004, 11:53 (Ref:1002509)

Top drive from Richo in R2, he joins the list of pull-throughs near the top of the pile.

IronLion · 13 Jun 2004, 13:05 (Ref:1002562)

all them names you posted did it in competative front runner teams as well

Mattracer · 14 Jun 2004, 10:45 (Ref:1003342)

Maybe the points system has paradoxically aided in the recovery phase of championship-contending drivers who fall "out of position" and have to recover because if they don't, their chances are shot. While it might stifle the passing at the front of the race, it doesn't impede the enthusiasm at the back of it?

FalconEL · 17 Jun 2004, 01:11 (Ref:1006397)

Maybe I'm missing something here, what exactly is a "pull-through"?

Sounds like some kind of medical procedure......

Dingo · 17 Jun 2004, 02:06 (Ref:1006414)

Quote:

Originally posted by Quested
Lowndes did it, Bright has done it, Skaife has done it, and now Marcos has done it... coming through from the back of the pack to get on the podium or win the race.

What is it about V8 Supercar racing, or the drivers involved, that makes this happen? I guess it's not something that is common in other forms of motorsport, so is there something about our category that encourages this or makes it possible or more likey?

All of them did it in the best car in the series that year...

Conrod Kieron · 17 Jun 2004, 04:34 (Ref:1006439)

Quote:

Originally posted by FalconEL
Maybe I'm missing something here, what exactly is a "pull-through"?

Sounds like some kind of medical procedure......

I think Andrew coined the phrase for this thread

Basically driving back through the pack like Ambrose did in R1 and Richo did in R2.

Peregrine · 17 Jun 2004, 06:55 (Ref:1006494)

In some instances (such as Richo race two) this could be attributed to having better tyres in the bank due to having an off in the first race/leg...... Ambrose (Race 1) could hardly be attributed to this line of thinking however....

Conrod Kieron · 17 Jun 2004, 08:46 (Ref:1006577)

Good point Peregrine. Also, some have been helped by pace cars.

Seton Fanatic · 23 Jun 2004, 03:36 (Ref:1012821)

Given the level of competition in the category, I feel that the car and driver have to be inch-perfect in order to get a result from the back. I still rate Glenn Seton's drive from starting in pit lane at Oran Park in 2002, despite an unlucky Safety Car period which destroyed Glenn's strategy, as the best I have seen from the nether regions of the grid.

Wrighty05 · 23 Jun 2004, 11:34 (Ref:1013191)

Brock did it in '95 at Mallala. Got turned around at turn 3 lap 1 and in a 29 lap race he came 2nd in what was probably the 3rd best car that season.

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