When BAT pulls out

statsguy7 · 18 Jun 2004, 01:07 (Ref:1007489)

British American Tobacco owns 94% of the BAR team. When they pull out of F1 who gets their stake of the team? David Richards? and others?

Wrex · 18 Jun 2004, 01:38 (Ref:1007496)

Whoever comes up with the cash! Most likely, Honda

Gt_R · 18 Jun 2004, 02:10 (Ref:1007504)

Well, it's only common sense for Honda to take the next step (since Toyota had already done it) and operate a full WORKS team...it's their original plan anyways.

But currently, indications are that Honda isn't interested in taking the full burden of running a full team, but rather prefer to supply engines, and some Honda-involvement when it coems to the chassis side.

But i'd expect sooner or later Honda to take a larger stake in BAR, just like what Mercedes have for Mclaren.

I can't see anybody having the cash besides manufacturers to actually own BAR now...but with the current movements of BAT regarding BAR's debts and shares, it seems like they are preparing for something for BAR in the near future.

RWC · 18 Jun 2004, 06:14 (Ref:1007563)

They can keep the team and continue to make money from sponsers (whoever they are at that time) or they can sell it

RWC · 18 Jun 2004, 06:18 (Ref:1007565)

Or they could continue as a tobacco team......
the way things are going with bernie trying his hardest to get tobacco 'legal' countries to stage races and max using his lawyers morrals to back it all up
......we could have the evil weed in our faces for years to come

mountainstar · 18 Jun 2004, 06:37 (Ref:1007578)

I don't think tobacco money is going anywhere but in the pockets of F1 teams for years to come.

ASCII Man · 18 Jun 2004, 10:00 (Ref:1007690)

Sure, if Bernie wants to stage races in countries like Sierra Leone, Somalia, Uzbekistan and Montserrat, then why not?
We could get to see starving poor people in the grand stands for a change!

Why not a Cuban Grand Prix?
Or a South/North Pole GP where the cars run with snowtyres?

Or a Grand Prix in Iraq?

Oh, bit off topic here...

Kicking-back · 18 Jun 2004, 10:13 (Ref:1007701)

I think we will see a partnership between David Richards/Prodrive and Honda.

neilap · 18 Jun 2004, 11:24 (Ref:1007776)

Quote:

Honda Vice President Otmar Szafnauer in Autosport: "We have several options available to us, our primary focus is not on acquiring a stake in the team. Our focus lies in developing a strong relationship with the team in order win the world championship. But If someone were to tell us: 'The only way for you to win the championship, is to buy the team'...then we would certainly be willing to do so".

BootsOntheSide · 18 Jun 2004, 12:28 (Ref:1007830)

By 2006 the current trend for car companies to own teams might've faded,e specially if Toyota and Jaguar continue to struggle. the onus may be back onto smaller teams ran by racing enthusiasts, and Dave Ricahrds certainly firts that category.

statsguy7 · 18 Jun 2004, 15:19 (Ref:1007997)

Quote:

Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
By 2006 the current trend for car companies to own teams might've faded,e specially if Toyota and Jaguar continue to struggle. the onus may be back onto smaller teams ran by racing enthusiasts, and Dave Ricahrds certainly firts that category.

Ferrari is certainly not struggling, and Renault is not bad off.?

courageous · 20 Jun 2004, 15:22 (Ref:1009480)

But the Ferrari and Renault (Benetton/Toleman) F1 teams have been around for decades, I can't see Honda, Jaguar & Toyota putting in that level of commitment.
In a few years, most of the car companies will get fed up & scale it back, leaving the TEAMS to take it back.

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