Mines bigger than yourssssss.

[billy bigtime]

V8 Supercars on Seven are bigger than the Formula 1 Grand Prix
Release Date: 19/03/2007
Seven’s record-breaking coverage of the Clipsal 500 in Adelaide on 3-4 March – the opening round of this year’s V8 Supercar Championships - has out-delivered Ten’s coverage of the Formula One Australian Grand Prix.

Seven’s Saturday coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered 200,000 more viewers than Ten’s Saturday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix (a whopping 59% audience advantage to V8 Supercars). Seven’s Sunday coverage of the Clipsal 500 was up 95,000 viewers on the average audience of Ten’s entire Sunday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix, a 15% audience advantage.

Saturday: Clipsal 500 - 710,000 AGP 540,000

Sunday: Clipsal 500 - 615,000 AGP 340,000

Seven’s coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered a 34% jump in audience on day 1 and a 46% jump in audience on day 2 vs last year’s coverage on Ten.

[Uncle Cranker]

Tockley wars, as purile as some of my posts......

[davester]

Let's see how the international figures compare.

[A9X05]

Originally Posted by billy bigtime

V8 Supercars on Seven are bigger than the Formula 1 Grand Prix
Release Date: 19/03/2007
Seven’s record-breaking coverage of the Clipsal 500 in Adelaide on 3-4 March – the opening round of this year’s V8 Supercar Championships - has out-delivered Ten’s coverage of the Formula One Australian Grand Prix.

Seven’s Saturday coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered 200,000 more viewers than Ten’s Saturday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix (a whopping 59% audience advantage to V8 Supercars). Seven’s Sunday coverage of the Clipsal 500 was up 95,000 viewers on the average audience of Ten’s entire Sunday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix, a 15% audience advantage.

Saturday: Clipsal 500 - 710,000 AGP 540,000

Sunday: Clipsal 500 - 615,000 AGP 340,000

Seven’s coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered a 34% jump in audience on day 1 and a 46% jump in audience on day 2 vs last year’s coverage on Ten.

Yeah right! They must've been busy! Did they knock on that many doors? HMMMmmm! They didnt come near me! Ratings for TV are nothing different to the Politicians! Dont worry the Bunny is coming soon!

[Buckshot]

Can we compare the telecasts for a moment. Channel 7 showed 3 races on both days.

Channel 10 showed Qualifying Saturday, the celeb race and the GP on Sunday - the rest was fluff heavily biased towards Toyota.

My friend and I are big F1 fans but we spent most of the weekend playing xBox360 as we didn't want to sit through all the garbage Channel 10 were showing around the racing.

[Pro Racer]

i watched #10 and they repeated several segments especially ones on McLaren/Fernando/Lewis, #7 did a little on that front but no where near as bad as #10, so atleast you seen more on #7, one thing they both have in common is taking excesive ads at the wrong time.

instead of comparing sizes, why not try to work out a better telecast, remember it's not size that matters it's what you do with it .

[Wrighty05]

Originally Posted by davester

Let's see how the international figures compare.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by billy bigtime

Seven’s Saturday coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered 200,000 more viewers than Ten’s Saturday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix (a whopping 59% audience advantage to V8 Supercars). Seven’s Sunday coverage of the Clipsal 500 was up 95,000 viewers on the average audience of Ten’s entire Sunday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix, a 15% audience advantage.

Saturday: Clipsal 500 - 710,000 AGP 540,000

Sunday: Clipsal 500 - 615,000 AGP 340,000

can someone translate for me!! the figures quoted are different to the numbers.

and this bit -

"Seven’s Sunday coverage of the Clipsal 500 was up 95,000 viewers on the average audience of Ten’s entire Sunday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix, a 15% audience advantage."

what's the average bit? - anyone know what the figures were for, say, 2.00 - 3.00pm on each Sunday?

are they including how many people were watching the F1 at, for example, in Brisbane, 9.00 a.m. on Saturday morning (not many, I'll bet!)

not that I don't trust Coch not to massage the stats

wonder how many were watching in South America/ Finland/ Timbuktu ....

[billy bigtime]

Originally Posted by pwr fan

i watched #10 and they repeated several segments especially ones on McLaren/Fernando/Lewis, #7 did a little on that front but no where near as bad as #10, so atleast you seen more on #7, one thing they both have in common is taking excesive ads at the wrong time.

instead of comparing sizes, why not try to work out a better telecast, remember it's not size that matters it's what you do with it .

You are a young boy

[Pro Racer]

yep, but to put the last comment into a form without inuendo, you can have a shorter coverage and not repeat segments every day of the telecast and show it once, same amount of racing less repeating = shorter telecast but less people getting peeved off at seeing the same crap several times over just for the perpose to make it seem like a bigger better telecast, it turns out bigger and boringer as aposed to shorter and more interesting.

[Da Moo]

I'm confused - this paragraph is from an article in the media section of THE AUSTRALIAN newspaper today:

"Ten could also celebrate its coverage of the Formula One Australian Grand Prix, with an average audience of 1.036 million viewers, well up on last year's figure."

That is a lot different to what Seven/avesco stated.....so someone is telling porky's and I am sure all would agree that The Australian newspaper has more credibility than avesco......

[Westy01]

I thought Rusty and even Murray looked like they were unsure of themselves in interviews and Darryl Beatie has no idea, that interview with Bernie was a disgrace. Cant wait for the GP's to hit Europe and get Martin Brundle and Co. back on the telecasts. As for the V8's nobody will do a better job than Ten did, it just does not look or feel the same anymore.

[888_Fan]

I agree, what was with the Bernie interview? I'm sure he's not easy to interview, but Darryl's line of questions were terrible.

And any interview he did, or any report at all he did, was either really basic/simple in their delivery, or at times didn't make sense at all....

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by billy bigtime

V8 Supercars on Seven are bigger than the Formula 1 Grand Prix
Release Date: 19/03/2007
Seven’s record-breaking coverage of the Clipsal 500 in Adelaide on 3-4 March – the opening round of this year’s V8 Supercar Championships - has out-delivered Ten’s coverage of the Formula One Australian Grand Prix.

Seven’s Saturday coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered 200,000 more viewers than Ten’s Saturday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix (a whopping 59% audience advantage to V8 Supercars). Seven’s Sunday coverage of the Clipsal 500 was up 95,000 viewers on the average audience of Ten’s entire Sunday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix, a 15% audience advantage.

Saturday: Clipsal 500 - 710,000 AGP 540,000

Sunday: Clipsal 500 - 615,000 AGP 340,000

Seven’s coverage of the Clipsal 500 delivered a 34% jump in audience on day 1 and a 46% jump in audience on day 2 vs last year’s coverage on Ten.

Give me a break...are they trying to say that the GP on Sunday got far less viewers than GP qualifying??!!

What is it with that mob. Do they think everyone are drongo's and just accept what they put out?

Talk about massaging the figures!!

Here is a far more straightforward one, Mr Avesco.......how many people watched the Clipsal race compared to how many watched the GP. Let me give you the answer - more watched the GP. Now go massage that number for us, will ya?

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Rick

can someone translate for me!! the figures quoted are different to the numbers.

and this bit -

"Seven’s Sunday coverage of the Clipsal 500 was up 95,000 viewers on the average audience of Ten’s entire Sunday coverage of the Australian Grand Prix, a 15% audience advantage."

what's the average bit? - anyone know what the figures were for, say, 2.00 - 3.00pm on each Sunday?

are they including how many people were watching the F1 at, for example, in Brisbane, 9.00 a.m. on Saturday morning (not many, I'll bet!)

not that I don't trust Coch not to massage the stats

wonder how many were watching in South America/ Finland/ Timbuktu ....

They are being very fast and loose with the figures (as usual).

The average audience figure is just that; the average number over the whole telecast (just like calculating the average lap speed around the whole track).

But their figure is comparing the very peak audience number for the Clipsal race with only the average audience number for the GP.

That's like comparing an average lap speed for one car, with the peak top speed of another car down the straight!

[Da Moo]

Once again it proves why mainstream media dont take v8s seriously. The Clipsal numbers were good yet they have to go out and lie and state incorrect numbers that no-one believes.

A message to Tony Cochrane - you have a good sport that is quite popular but moronic acts like this undo all the good work - wake up!!

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Da Moo

Once again it proves why mainstream media dont take v8s seriously. The Clipsal numbers were good yet they have to go out and lie and state incorrect numbers that no-one believes.

A message to Tony Cochrane - you have a good sport that is quite popular but moronic acts like this undo all the good work - wake up!!

Well said!

[Pro Racer]

well said Da Moo.

but if they think people are really going to look st those figures and believe them he is massaging somthing other than the figures. but as Da Moo said he has got a good popular sport but don't make it all look stupid and do silly stuff like that.

[Senna05]

I am sure Channel 10 are now looking at this and laughing. Yes, without the V8's 10 had alot to fill in. And yes, they probably did a poor job. But I am sure that nationally they drew more viewers on an average!

I have a feeling AVESCO have taken the V8 coverage and averaged it over the time period it was telecast and done the same for 10. 10 had how many more hours of coverage?

And this reeks a little to me. If 9 can get 1.5 million viewers in sydney alone for an NRL match, I am sure that F1 can do a million or so nationally. And V8's would be "on par".

In the end, instead of focussing on a ****ing contest with 10, maybe they should worry about trying to create a product that attracts as many casual fan as possible as well as appeasing the regular enthusiast. I am sure the time spent creating that press release could have been better put to researching what music we want in broadcasts or what interviews we'd like to see.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Senna05

I have a feeling AVESCO have taken the V8 coverage and averaged it over the time period it was telecast and done the same for 10.

But that's the problem...they didn't.

They compared V8's peak figure spike (which may have been for just, say,a single 15 minute period) with F1's average figure over the whole day. They are not even comparing like for like.

[peckstar]

so let me guess this straight touring fan01 comes on rattles off some numbers without any support for their information, without quoting any source and suddenly thise figures are gospel. come on you suckers, for all you know touring fan could be a channle ten spin doctor. lok at things a bit objectively.

If you all could just post your pin numbers here that would be appreaciated

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

come on you suckers, for all you know touring fan could be a channle ten spin doctor. lok at things a bit objectively.

I think touring fan is trying to make sense of what VESA has done with its odd press release and calculation of numbers based on the report of The Australian which reported

Originally Posted by Da Moo

"Ten could also celebrate its coverage of the Formula One Australian Grand Prix, with an average audience of 1.036 million viewers, well up on last year's figure."

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by peckstar

so let me guess this straight touring fan01 comes on rattles off some numbers without any support for their information, without quoting any source and suddenly thise figures are gospel. come on you suckers, for all you know touring fan could be a channle ten spin doctor. lok at things a bit objectively.

If you all could just post your pin numbers here that would be appreaciated

Huh?

I wasn't rattling off numbers without 'support'. I was merely clarifying the way they used the numbers (in the original post) that were given out by V8SCA!

They are being disingenuous and ignore the comparitive peak viewing figures of each telecast or the total amount of viewers over the whole day.

It's very simple...which race had the most viewers? The GP - yet they try to pretend it's different by using 'averages' which take into account all the other non-race broadcast time (there is more non main-race time in the GP telecast).

[peckstar]

sure prove it.

[touring fan01]

Prove what?

The figures released show that the GP achieved a higher peak audience than the V8's acheived with a their peak audience. That's just fact and that's comparing like for like.