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Old 26 Jun 2012, 21:21 (Ref:3098662)   #1
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2013 Nascar Silly Season

Kenseth leaving Rousch/Fenway. Stenhouse Jr. takes his place.

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Old 26 Jun 2012, 21:53 (Ref:3098681)   #2
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Matt Kenseth is 40! Crazy how time flies!

I'm glad Stenhouse has found a spot.
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Yeah hard to believe that guy is 40 and that he has a kid that is a Sophomore at Clemson, or something like that.

This is quite the shocker as even though Ricky seems to be the real deal, Kennseth is most certainly having his strongest year in some time, but I am assuming this decision was some months ago.

Matt will find a good seat as he has some good years left yet. According to the article, perhaps JGR....
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I hope kenseth stays in the Ford camp. But after reading an article, Ford’s racing director Jamie Allison indicated that Kenseth would not drive a Ford in 2013. I kinda dont believe that. I just get the feeling that he is going to Penske Racing in the #12. Maybe Petty if thet stay in the Ford camp. But I dont think Petty is in control of his own team. just someone who runs it.

If not those 2 teams, then most likely JGR
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I guess with Biffle running well in the chase and Carl being the RFR golden boy Kenseth was the obvious choice to make way.

JGR or possible SHR if Newman doesn't pick his game up are the only front-line teams I can think of that might have seats available. Especially as Smoke is going to be saddled with a third car that won't be running worth a damn anyway...

Also seen some state-side rumours that JGR may be looking at Kurt Busch (Kurt and Kyle in the same team - how's that for a Pit lane reporters nightmare?).
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It would be dead end for Matt at Penske. Stewart/Hass or JGR would his best move, of the already mentioned possibilities. The Busch sisters on the same team would comical.

And while I understand the the reasoning mentioned above about the Bif and Golden Carl, I can't remember a current Daytona 500 winner being told to take a hike. Even still, I thought that Matt had won more than one points race, but that ain't the case.
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It seems Andretti to Dodge is more than a rumor.

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The article mentions sponsorship issues and hints that Kenseth himself wasn't happy with his pay. The downside in the unassuming way he gathers his wins is that he might not get the same exposure the noisy headline grabbers get. We know Trevor Bayne's own 500 win wasn't enough to get him a full time ride. Uncertain times all round it would seem.
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Noted it is one of if not the biggest race in the calendar, but in all honesty though the Daytona 500 was a lottery win, given the 2 car drafting etc. If he won the Coke 600 or something else "marquee" he may have had a better chance getting something long term
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^ LOL @ Coke 600 being more "marquee" than the Daytona 500.

Sad part is that a girl of questionable stock car skills gets a 8 figure sponsorship to run Natioonwide, but a Daytona 500 WIN doesn't get a fulltime ride in ANY of NASCAR's top three series.

This is one more reason I detest corporate America. It's not who you know, its who you bl....
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never said it was "more marquee"...
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If Andretti does run in the Nascar Cup Series, I wonder if Danica Patrick and jams Hinchcliffe could attempt the Memorial Day double.
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I don't see it, tbh. Adapting to stock cars isn't something that's done overnight.

I actually had assumed that he'd kill the Indycar program and elope to NASCAR the same way he defected from CART whenever there was talk that Andretti might set up a NASCAR team. It appears he's considering doing both.
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I don't see it, tbh. Adapting to stock cars isn't something that's done overnight.
I agree. Unfortunately, I see someone attempting the double is behind us for sometime, not just because of the stockcar adaption, but the Indy adaption and the month of May commitment as well. Maybe when money starts pouring into racing again, maybe. Right now, only a "certain driver" would attempt it as Dario proved that he can't drive a stockcar, Robby Gordon is over the hill and "done" with NASCAR (right?) and Smoke can't squeeze his fat ass into an Indy Car anymore, although, the DW12 is quite large and someone carved out the inside of a McLaren enough to shoe horn him in...

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Why not? Penske and Ganassi do. If the money is there and the shoe fits...
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Why not? Penske and Ganassi do. If the money is there and the shoe fits...
It had seemed to me that Andretti is less financially secure than either Ganassi and Penske, and a bit vulnerable to the financial uncertainty within Indycar. Certainly the sponsorship has been a bit tricky with them of late. If my impression is correct, it's probable Dodge is footing more than the normal share of the bill to keep a foothold in Cup. I'm also actually taken aback that Kenseth appears to be heading there.
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With the lack of availability currently in the Cup ranks, I am not surprised to see Kennseth considering anything. It is, however, very earlier on in the silly season, and there will sure to be others "out of a ride" in the coming months, giving way for more options. I would think there would be a handful of teams to tell Matt, "hey, we'll boot (this guy), to give you a seat".

I guess Andritti Racing and Dodge would make a cute couple; never really been a fan of either family.
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Teams in IndyCar, Indy Lights and Nascar Cup, promotion of two IndyCar races... if they were vulnerable, they wouldn't try so many businesses.
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@ Bruton; what a jackass. The introduction of the CoT has brought the level of racing up at boring tracks and reduced the level of racing at great tracks for mediocre racing everywhere.

So, sure, Bruton, let's throw a yellow every 30 laps and have a All Star type race every weekend. Improve the sport my ass. I think Tony Stewart's joking about running a figure 8 and half the cars running backward was seriously contemplated by this clown.
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@ Bruton; what a jackass. The introduction of the CoT has brought the level of racing up at boring tracks and reduced the level of racing at great tracks for mediocre racing everywhere.

So, sure, Bruton, let's throw a yellow every 30 laps and have a All Star type race every weekend. Improve the sport my ass. I think Tony Stewart's joking about running a figure 8 and half the cars running backward was seriously contemplated by this clown.
Correct. Everything under the sun but actually rolling up the sleeves, engaging the brain and making the cars raceable. Why bother with all that when you can just throw in a few stunts? This kind of thinking has weakened the credibility of a lot of high level motorracing.
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Huh, mandatory caution to increase excitement? That's so stupid! That rule will destroy NASCAR for good!
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If they want safer commercial breaks, they should adopt heat races. Like, three 50 mile heats and a 300 mile final instead of 500 milers.
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So would it be called a lack-of-competition caution?
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