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View Poll Results: About the FIA's new regulations about the F1, you are... | |||
Totally in favour | 11 | 30.56% | |
Partially in favour | 15 | 41.67% | |
Against | 8 | 22.22% | |
Indifferent | 2 | 5.56% | |
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20 Feb 2003, 16:08 (Ref:512461) | #1 | ||
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About the 2003 FIA rules
The 2003 FIA rules in F1 are much controversial in general and makes many changes what will alter the sense of F1. Are you in favour or against the changes? The thread is open to merge all discusions about it.
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20 Feb 2003, 16:18 (Ref:512471) | #2 | ||
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We've had this before, but I'll vote "totally against" once again. The measures are not sufficiently thought, they are meant to treat the symptom not the disease (if it is a disease). Besides, the "some of the rules are not new rules, they are interpretations of existing rules so no reasons to vote them" is utter bull and dirty. Thumb down, both of them.
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20 Feb 2003, 16:22 (Ref:512478) | #3 | ||
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Well, unlike red, I'm fully in favour. I'd like to see far greater driver input and that will be provided by the new rules.
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20 Feb 2003, 16:27 (Ref:512487) | #4 | ||
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Greater driver input is fine Damon, but the rules do little in that direction I'm afraid. The tendency to 'spice up the things' prevails, so luck will rule. So is the 'cut the costs at all costs'.
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20 Feb 2003, 16:31 (Ref:512491) | #5 | ||
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I agree that the cost cutting measures will do very little. It may make it cheaper to take part but the big teams will simply find something else to spend the money on.
Getting rid of driver aids, however, has always got to be good. |
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20 Feb 2003, 16:31 (Ref:512492) | #6 | ||
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Red, I'm with you on this one.
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20 Feb 2003, 16:34 (Ref:512496) | #7 | ||
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Partially in favour - the only thing I like is the not touching the cars between qual and race - introduces interesting possibilities for strategy - and we all know who is best at that
The rest of the proposed changes are total BS |
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20 Feb 2003, 16:39 (Ref:512500) | #8 | ||
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Getting rid of TC or LC, as I said, I have no problem with it.
As for the not touching the cars, well, trhe ideea is good but a little bit of drawing board time won't hurt.... I love the 'no refuelling idea' but against the 'no setup alterations'. As for the tyres, nothing new here. They had to chose the tyre spec before quals, so nothing new. Ahh-haaa! But the spec, not the tyre set! |
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20 Feb 2003, 16:44 (Ref:512503) | #9 | ||
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Oh yes..... I completely forgot! No Sunday morning warm-up! Sheeseee! Other than sleeping a little bit longer in the GP day, which really doesn't thrill me, it's a 30 minutes less track action. (the same 'lack of on-track action' that Bernie and Max was crying a couple of years ago, when they almost forced them to do Friday practice... Nice U-turn... )
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20 Feb 2003, 16:48 (Ref:512506) | #10 | ||
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Looks like there's been a clarification regarding what work can be done post qualifying. Have a look at this link.
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20 Feb 2003, 16:55 (Ref:512507) | #11 | ||
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That's a bit better, but the clarification still do not clarify what means "after qualifying" and "before the race". And that's not enough for me anyway, the qual-setup vs race-setup are not possible, same goes for the tyres.
PS: Race tyres can be removed but not changed couple of line later: Tyres and brake ducts changed for a fluctuation in weather conditions.... :confused: |
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20 Feb 2003, 16:55 (Ref:512509) | #12 | ||
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Partially in Favor.
I like the attempt to rein in costs and simplify the technology, though I question the safety of not allowing car to pit voice communication. I'm all in favor of the elimination of Traction control, launch control and automatic shifts. I don't like the Qualifying shoot-out, bit I understood it. Its irrelevant now that refueling is prohibited between the end of Qualies and the race. |
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20 Feb 2003, 18:06 (Ref:512586) | #13 | ||
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20 Feb 2003, 18:26 (Ref:512605) | #14 | ||
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I think some of there ideas has been good, it will make it that bit more interesting which it lacked last year.
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20 Feb 2003, 20:09 (Ref:512702) | #17 | |
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Partially in favour.
I support the bits that take electronic driveraids away (allthough I suspect it brings back lots of paranoia), but I'm against the rules that are just there to create an artificial sort of entertainment, like the oneshot qualifying and not to be allowed to touch your car between qualifying and race. The racing should be interesting for the racing, not for the strategies (otherwise I'd watch chess instead). I'm also against the dictatorial way the FIA went over this. Formula 1 is first and foremost made by the teams. If the FIA keeps failing to awcknowledge that they need the teams harder than the teams need them, than I applaude the initiative to start up a rival series and slap the FIA around the ears with it. |
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20 Feb 2003, 20:45 (Ref:512740) | #18 | ||
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i voted Partially in favour as it does need change but weather it works out 4 the best we will have 2 see
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21 Feb 2003, 11:01 (Ref:513286) | #20 | |||
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The FIA clarifies how much work the teams can carry out Cars will spend a lot longer in parc ferme this season Formula 1 teams have been told that they can only carry out limited work on their cars between final qualifying and the race and only under the supervision of the scrutineers, according to AUTOSPORT this week. The FIA, the sport's governing body, has now clarified exactly what can be done to the cars, which will be returned to the team garages after qualifying but must remain under parc ferme conditions until they are returned to the central parc ferme at 6pm and locked up until Sunday morning. Teams will be allowed to carry out minor work on the cars from 8am Sunday, again under the eyes of scrutineers, but essentially the cars will start the race in a similar configuration to that in which they ended qualifying. This means that it is likely the traditional Sunday morning warm-up will be abolished. What the teams can do and when: After qualifying: *Tyre pressure checks *Removal of bodywork and the fitting of cooling devices *Connection of jump battery *Download of data by physical connection to car *Fitting of water heaters *Fitting of slave tyres *Carrying out work required by the FIA Before the race: *Repair crash damage *Some liquids and gases may be drained and replenished – not fuel *Race tyres can be removed but not changed *Main battery may be changed *Cleaning of bodywork *Tyres and brake ducts changed for a fluctuation in weather conditions Last edited by Jellybabe; 21 Feb 2003 at 11:07. |
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21 Feb 2003, 11:55 (Ref:513316) | #21 | ||
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I agree with the rules, although I'd have preferred a normal qualifying hour on Friday, and an 8-6-4-3-2-1 points system instead. But overall, F1 HAD to be saved. Jordan and Minardi are on the brink, if they die, once the manufacturers leave, the sport is stuffed. As I have said before, look at BTCC or Le Mans.
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21 Feb 2003, 12:04 (Ref:513323) | #22 | ||
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Sounds good to me - I voted yes!!! Now we can wait two weeks and see whether the whole shebang works
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21 Feb 2003, 12:32 (Ref:513344) | #23 | ||
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The points system evolved from 8-6-4 to 9-6 then 10-6 to reduce the probability that the championship is won without actually winning 1 single race. What buggs me is that 50 years of experience is thrown down the toilet, because of 2 championships were not ended in the last race.... (ok 3 of them)
On one hand they reduce the gap between the winner and second finisher. That would certainly reduce the eagerness to pass for the lead, for only 2 points and lots of DNF risks. But to ensure that some passes do actually occur, they 'shuffle the grid a bit'. This is not sport. This is 'show'. |
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8 Mar 2003, 08:37 (Ref:528635) | #24 | |||
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I just love it!!! Here this one:
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8 Mar 2003, 08:52 (Ref:528645) | #25 | ||
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I just love it. Interesting that the top six qualifiers are all experienced and exacting drivers. Who would have been silly enough to think this new system would detract from SchM's achievements? What about the thread that SchM would not get the poles to beat the record. Oh Ye of little faith!! How can this talented driver be put at a disadvantage when the requirements are more exacting? Think again.
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