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View Poll Results: Penalty for CrashBandicoot?
$50,000 + loss of points 15 24.59%
$70,000 + loss of points 3 4.92%
$100,000 + 12 months suspension 16 26.23%
$100,000 + racing licence revoked 20 32.79%
Suspended 3 race ban 5 8.20%
Do Nothing 2 3.28%
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 04:44 (Ref:1134508)   #1
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Penalty for CrashBandicoot?

Considering Marcos got fined $10,000 for braking at the finish, which of the following penalties should be applied to Little Dick for his ALTERCATION with Bright??
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 05:09 (Ref:1134518)   #2
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doesn't really matter - Kees has to build a new one now - $300K+? maybe KMart should be made to pay for that!
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 05:34 (Ref:1134535)   #3
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 06:15 (Ref:1134560)   #4
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Penalise him? - I want to buy him a beer. He's single handedly done more damage to holden's title fight than any Ford this season!

& That young rickster is Karma!
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 06:39 (Ref:1134570)   #5
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String him up by the and leave him for a few days... Suitable punishment I reckon could even be handled by Holden themselves.

And if a monetary fine is awarded, maybe Ford could pay it on his behalf - he helped them no end

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Old 25 Oct 2004, 06:55 (Ref:1134578)   #6
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$50,000 and a 3 race meeting suspension would be enough...

Everyone makes mistakes, but he made a few too many on the weekend and one of them could have seriously injured NotSo - it was pure luck that he got out ok... Hopefully Crash Bandicoot (geez, that name is gonna stick !!) learnt a very important lesson on Sunday...

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Old 25 Oct 2004, 07:13 (Ref:1134584)   #7
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Re: Penalty for CrashBandicoot?

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Considering Marcos got fined $10,000 for braking at the finish, which of the following penalties should be applied to Little Dick for his ALTERCATION with Bright??
YOur not serious 8news...surely.
You have made some silly statements, but now i think you have your hand on your on it. It may have not be the "Brightest" of incidents but those fines you mentioned are ridiculous!
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 07:54 (Ref:1134621)   #8
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 08:44 (Ref:1134659)   #9
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This is a little over reaction in my view.

If we look back on some of the more serious incidents over the past few seasons, you'll find that Rick's (whilst galactically stupid) is not the only one.

Dumbrell in Adelaide caused way more damage.

Depending on which side of the fence you sit, Ingall on Skaife at the Creek.

Murphy and Bargs at PI a few years back.

There's been plenty.

I'm just amazed that so many Ford fans are so concerned about penalising the guy that all but handed you the championship on a silver platter?
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 08:56 (Ref:1134669)   #10
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This is a little over reaction in my view.

If we look back on some of the more serious incidents over the past few seasons, you'll find that Rick's (whilst galactically stupid) is not the only one.

Dumbrell in Adelaide caused way more damage.

Depending on which side of the fence you sit, Ingall on Skaife at the Creek.

Murphy and Bargs at PI a few years back.

There's been plenty.

I'm just amazed that so many Ford fans are so concerned about penalising the guy that all but handed you the championship on a silver platter?
because un like you holden fans we like to see good CLEAN racing and not some one get hurt
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 09:18 (Ref:1134693)   #11
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No fine racing incident, sorry.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 09:49 (Ref:1134727)   #12
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Have to disagree Harves. It was more than a racing incident. I would give him a $10k and 1 race suspension.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 09:54 (Ref:1134736)   #13
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If there was one incident at the weekend, it would be an accident... two might be an accident... three is negligent, not driving with due care & attention...

... and at the least warrants a licence review and/or suspended ban.... one more punt, and boofa... out you go for a round!
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 10:02 (Ref:1134748)   #14
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I believe the biggest penalty in terms of points was given to Paul Romano in 2002 (with a different points system) when he was docked 150 points for going out of his way to give forbsey some payback $20k fine went with it as well.

While Rick's on track "mistakes" might not have been deliberate like Romano's its probably a good yardstick for comparisons of heavy (but deserved penalties)

Deducting points at this stage of the season with the championship basically out of his grasp probably wont worry him that much, a big fine might eat into the wallet a little, but i think a stint on the sidelines for the last 2 races is the best idea. Losing points and a fine wont stop him racing, a suspension will.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 10:10 (Ref:1134755)   #15
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skippy you forgot EC 2003 10000 fine plus loss of all points for the race plus 100ish more for straying off the racing line
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 10:11 (Ref:1134756)   #16
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I'm just amazed that so many Ford fans are so concerned about penalising the guy that all but handed you the championship on a silver platter?
They might not all be Ford fans......they might be Jason Bright fans, PWR fans or Holden fans that realise the best chance Holden had of winning the championship may have been dealt an unnecessary blow.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 10:47 (Ref:1134807)   #17
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It needs a calm eye towards the circumstances and precedents. Remember Ingall turned Murf around at Adelaide last year and was wiped from the race? Also, Kelly had received a drive-through for turning Ingall around on Saturday's race, but that penalty didn't kerb his driving manner. He went on to cause a much more serious incident.

Surely he would have to be in for something more severe than mere loss of points.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 11:14 (Ref:1134836)   #18
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This was a unfortunate incident
But I believe this has happen before, and the was no high court hanging.
(don't forget Morris did send Dumbrel a invoice for the GP crash -last year).
If Pweel had of totaled his car from the long tall BMW drivers (deliberate) shove, would we call for a tough fine etc?
YES- because human nature says the injury should match the penalty- but on merit RK v No-So - I think it was a un-intentional accident- like Kees said move on.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 12:37 (Ref:1134963)   #19
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I missed all the action, and am trying to catch up. Who's "Crashbandicoot" and why's he called that - and what did he do to start this poll/thread?

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Old 25 Oct 2004, 12:43 (Ref:1134974)   #20
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Crashbandicoot is the new nickname for Rick Kelly... (just a little fun I invented last night in the post-race fever)

... as for his activities a the weekend... well there is a dead #50 PWR car, a busted bumper and wheel with #9 Caltex written on it, and a black and green Ozemail #12 bumper with a huge Kmart-sized mark in it....

Mr R Kelly had a shocker... and other than the response he gave on the teev, and the Plastic Fantastic HMS media machine covering for him, there is no sense that the collision into another driver has really had an impact on him at all...

Thinking back, it was almost as if the Plastic mob was on the radio to Crashbandicoot (ala Grech to Bright in 2003 at PI...) offering media management at a couple of hundred kliks an hour before he stepped from the car.....
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 14:48 (Ref:1135131)   #21
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Last weekend was the first time in a while I watched a soupcar race and I dont think i'll be hurrying back. Rick made a few mistakes over the weekend, but come on, some of the **** been said on here is quite an over reaction. A bit of a fine and a talking to by officialdalm for the Bright incident, I think would do the trick.

Ingall incident, didnt warrant anything. Following another car I dont think warrants any penalty either
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 15:45 (Ref:1135236)   #22
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i hope that he does get done for dangerous driving - sure we all want biff - but to damage 4 cars??? bit over the top.

i do understand that indy is hard on brakes too so maybe some of them could be called racing incidents

btw i ahvent seen the rac just highlights so my input is coming from what has been stated here.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 22:29 (Ref:1135768)   #23
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I'd like to see him hit where it REALLY hurts ... isolation from his mum for 12 months so he has to cut up his own food AND no pocketmoney from Dad, which should effectively end his career.
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Old 25 Oct 2004, 23:20 (Ref:1135813)   #24
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Finally some posts that see this incident for what it really was, forget personal attacks that's way to easy, it was a racing incident. The aftermath is what happens when you race on street circuits.
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Old 26 Oct 2004, 00:09 (Ref:1135855)   #25
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If it had been just one incident I would agree with you, but for Crash to have had 3 such incidents is too much of a coincidence. I think a one round ban suspended until the end of next year would be justified.
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