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5 Dec 2009, 17:15 (Ref:2594503) | #1 | ||
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Pitpass claim Ferrari may have violated the testing. -although not really about that!
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39644
http://ferrarif1forum.com/2009/12/05...d-f1-test-ban/ If this is true, this is huge ... |
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5 Dec 2009, 17:36 (Ref:2594513) | #2 | ||
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Good. The testing ban is a joke anyway. Come on, they weren't testing anything new for their car obviously, they may or may not have just been testing a driver. I mean, I don't like seeing cheating in F1, but the testing ban is just a completely stupid idea imo.
However, on the other hand, I wouldn't trust PitPass as far as I could throw them, a lot of the time they just post utter *******s |
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5 Dec 2009, 17:38 (Ref:2594515) | #3 | |||
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5 Dec 2009, 17:51 (Ref:2594523) | #4 | ||
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Yes, they do need to cut costs. But not at the expense of young drivers who deserve time behind the wheel to get them up to speed. First and foremost, F1 is racing and I think a few people are forgetting that.
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5 Dec 2009, 17:58 (Ref:2594525) | #5 | |||
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TGF is not signed to Ferrari as a racing driver though is he? so maybe it was not really a problem to have him drive the F60? |
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5 Dec 2009, 19:12 (Ref:2594546) | #6 | |
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Somewhere out there a small Frenchmen is possibly reading this thread and thinking: Sacre bleu!
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5 Dec 2009, 19:15 (Ref:2594551) | #7 | |
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Not a worry.
Those red cars are teflon coated so nothing sticks. We've seen it all before. |
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5 Dec 2009, 20:01 (Ref:2594569) | #8 | ||
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"alluded to" wont actually stand up in court.
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5 Dec 2009, 20:11 (Ref:2594571) | #9 | ||
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*stirs up controversy*. With Mister Todt in charge they can do what they like.
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5 Dec 2009, 20:22 (Ref:2594576) | #10 | ||
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This is purely a rumor, is there really anything in it?
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5 Dec 2009, 20:35 (Ref:2594581) | #11 | |||
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It would still be in violation of the rules though. At the time he was considered for a race seat. They would still acquire useful data for example. |
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5 Dec 2009, 20:40 (Ref:2594582) | #12 | |||
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http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17768.html As for the secret Ferrari-test, more evidence is needed. 'One witness equals no witness.' |
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5 Dec 2009, 20:41 (Ref:2594583) | #13 | |
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So, is it a case of wrong helmet, right driver or right helmet, wrong driver?
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5 Dec 2009, 20:42 (Ref:2594584) | #14 | ||
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Has anyone thought twice about this? What is the possibility that any team, especially Ferrari, were able to run a current F1 car, without someone getting a picture or two of it, at and Mugello at that?
On the other steered conversation, the testing ban is stupid. It is likely costing more money than it is saving. |
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5 Dec 2009, 20:46 (Ref:2594587) | #15 | |
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Well, it's a Ferrari owned circuit in Italy with good security and not a photocopy shop in sight.
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5 Dec 2009, 22:21 (Ref:2594632) | #16 | ||
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Aaaah... Finally a crontroversy full of conspiracy theories ! I was missing that !
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6 Dec 2009, 12:37 (Ref:2594890) | #17 | |||
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Look at what happened to Alguerusari and Grosjean this year, even Badoer. Proof if any where needed that more needs to be done. We can't have guys running around that haven't driven an F1 car in 8 years or guys who have only driven them in straightlines. For one it's dangerous. |
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6 Dec 2009, 13:12 (Ref:2594910) | #18 | |||
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6 Dec 2009, 15:38 (Ref:2594942) | #19 | ||
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I think the best solution would be 5-7 tests organised by the FIA for all teams to take part in. The tests would all be in circuits not on the race calendar, and there should be some for of mileage/day limit for current race drivers. It's a simple solution and wouldn't really cost much.
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6 Dec 2009, 16:20 (Ref:2594954) | #20 | ||
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Just to ban testing completely was never going to work, as with most things in life a compromise is needed..
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6 Dec 2009, 16:35 (Ref:2594959) | #21 | |
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I believe that the teams are already in talks with the FIA about doing a few "media friendly" tests during the season.
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6 Dec 2009, 16:45 (Ref:2594968) | #22 | |||
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I'd ban current race drivers from driving in the last half of any day's running, and entirely from pre-Christmas tests. The last half given over to rookies rather the first to make it less important if they prang a car. One of these could be tacked on to the proposed FOTA single launch and have some form of exhibition event tacked on - be it an all-star race or something else. In-season testing could be brought back, within the European season. Two days at Motorland Aragon wouldn't hurt. |
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6 Dec 2009, 16:59 (Ref:2594970) | #23 | ||
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6 Dec 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2594979) | #24 | ||
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Sounds good if going to South Africa (for example) would pay for itself. Brno would be far more likely to do that.
Perhaps these collective tests could be filmed for TV purposes. No need to send a full camera crew, just a few in the pits, the on-boards and possibly even a chopper. |
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6 Dec 2009, 22:06 (Ref:2595082) | #25 | ||
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If we want to get the fans in, how about awarding a medal to the driver with the fastest lap at the end of the test? Keep Bernie happy, makes it a mini competition and means there would be something for the fans to keep track of. Could even limit that to none race drivers, which means young drivers could actually be judged from the outside, rather than all this 'they were running heavy' or 'they gave him a low fuel run at the end'.
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