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Old 16 Sep 2003, 14:34 (Ref:720805)   #1
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Phoenix1 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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BMW Williams (M) - Juan Pablo Montoya & Ralf Schumacher

McLaren Mercedes (M)- Kimi Raikkonen & David Couthard

Renualt (M)- Fernando Alonso & Jacques Villeneuve*/Jarno Trulli

BAR Honda (B) - Jenson Button & Jacques Villeneuve*/Takumo Sato

Jaguar Cosworth (M) - Mark Webber & Whoever pays the most

Toyota (M) - Oliver Panis & Cristiano da Matta

Jordan Cosworth/Mercedes*** (B) - Marc Gene/Alex Wurz** & Ralph Firman/Zsolt Baumgartner****

Sauber Petronas (B)- Felippa Massa & Nick Heidfeld

Minardi Cosworth/Mercedes*** (B)- Jos Vestappen & Zsolt Baumgartner/Whoever pays the most

Ferrari - Rubens Barrichello & Michael Schumacher

*because Renualt have tried to sign him before.
** Williams are more likely to release Gene than McLaren would to be release Wurz
*** If Jordan got Wurz and still where on Bridgestones I could see it being useful. Minardi are also probably saving money with running less days, Kiesa paying for the engines, plus Wilsons payoff.
****Two rookies would be a major problem, budget needs or not
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 14:41 (Ref:720808)   #2
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Phoenix, Trulli is confirmed at Renault next season.
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 14:50 (Ref:720826)   #3
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And Fisichella is at Sauber.
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 14:53 (Ref:720829)   #4
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Ferrari - Rubens Barrichello & Michael Schumacher

BMW Williams - Juan Pablo Montoya & Ralf Schumacher

McLaren Mercedes - Kimi Raikkonen & David Couthard

Renualt - Fernando Alonso & Jarno Trulli


BAR Honda - Jenson Button & Takumo Sato

Jaguar Cosworth - Mark Webber & Wilson

Toyota - Oliver Panis & Cristiano da Matta

Jordan - Nick Heidfeld & ??? or $$$

Sauber Petronas - Fisicella & Massa (is Massa comfirmed?)

Minardi - $$$ and $$$
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 16:00 (Ref:720893)   #5
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Wrex - you can lose Villeneuve from the Renault seat!

Hasn't Heidfeld got a Jaguar contract in his pocket already? (that was the rumour at the weekend).

That leaves seats available at:

BAR: Sato / Villeneuve / Davidson
Jordan: $$$ & $$$ (Firman / Baumgartner????)
Sauber: Massa (not sure if he's actually signed but it's only a matter of time)
Minardi: Verstappen & $$$

Not many seats left, lots of drivers available. I'm not a big fan of Villeneuve but he's got to be the best driver available at the moment surely? BAR would be insane to let him go in favour of Sato.
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 16:57 (Ref:720951)   #6
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Renault would have to have their brains seriously examined to even contemplate taking Villeneuve over Trulli, surely? (I know, it isn;t going to happen, but.....)
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 17:10 (Ref:720960)   #7
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Old 16 Sep 2003, 17:32 (Ref:720993)   #8
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BAR - Button / Sato or Villeneuve
Jaguar - Webber / Wilson, Heidfeld or Verstappen
Sauber - Fisichella / Heidfeld, Massa or Verstappen
Jordan - Heidfeld, Verstappen, Firman and/or Baumgartner
Minardi - A guy with rich parents or sponsors (*)

(*) I think not Verstappen, his sponsors are not willing to do another year Minardi. Mr Peridon (boss of Trust) said in an interview that he increases his contribution with 50% next season.
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Old 17 Sep 2003, 12:14 (Ref:721733)   #9
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Verstappen move up to Jordan or even Sauber. $$$$$$ talks.

Heidfeld will probably land somewhere but I suspect Jacques' game is up.
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Old 17 Sep 2003, 12:23 (Ref:721748)   #10
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Why would Gene or Wurz want to run around at the back in a Jordan, rather than get well paid to continue working with a top team?

I know drivers naturally want to race, but there's racing and racing and teams with inferior facilities, engineering capablity and budgets would come as a great culture shock after working with BMW Williams (for example).
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Old 17 Sep 2003, 12:24 (Ref:721750)   #11
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If Jordan will get the mercedes engine deal and Heidfeld is stiil under contract by mercedes he will go to Jordan.If not i think he will drive at Jaguar next year.
Jordan maybe Verstappen/Baumgartner/Firman/Wirdheim or maybe Wilson.
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