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Old 10 Jan 2007, 01:34 (Ref:1810897)   #1
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I saw a midget race the other night- and i can't wait to see chili bowl on TV if it airs...
Does any one realize how good USAC racing is at all levels?
It is a huuge organization, but is it sort of glazed over, considring it feeds nascar and not indy anymore...
The history here is so rich- why does it not get better coverage?
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Old 10 Jan 2007, 20:33 (Ref:1811737)   #2
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Ever seen a World of Outlaws Race? Wild. Except for the Nashville Ntls. they normally are not covered, at least in Canada. Usually too many delays for live TV & there is that 1000lb gorilla called NASCAR.
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One of the highlights of my life was watching Steve Kinser come to Australia to race a sprint car and from the back of the field he not only won the race but lapped every single car in the event (and the other drivers were no slouches Brooke Tatnell , Max Dumnesy , Skip Jackson and the like)

and he is returning to Oz again this year
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Old 10 Jan 2007, 22:56 (Ref:1811859)   #4
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I saw a midget race the other night- and i can't wait to see chili bowl on TV if it airs...
Does any one realize how good USAC racing is at all levels?
It is a huuge organization, but is it sort of glazed over, considring it feeds nascar and not indy anymore...
The history here is so rich- why does it not get better coverage?
We were at Copper World Classic in 1998. The Silver Crown field included about 50 cars, 30 of which were locked in after qualifying. Those 30 cars were separated by half a second. USAC is hugely competitive and the racing is amazing. But short track racing in the United States has lost out a bit lately.
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Old 11 Jan 2007, 15:37 (Ref:1812390)   #5
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Any of you guys get to the middle of nowhere Kansas in the dead of summer, this place is simply awesome in a time warp back to the 1950s...

http://www.highbanks.org/
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Any of you guys get to the middle of nowhere Kansas in the dead of summer, this place is simply awesome in a time warp back to the 1950s...

http://www.highbanks.org/
Been there on three occassions, including Jeff Gordon's triumph.
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Old 11 Jan 2007, 20:52 (Ref:1812672)   #7
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We get the WOO in On. this year for the 1st time. Got to try and get to it.
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Old 12 Jan 2007, 01:17 (Ref:1812880)   #9
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WoO races everywhere, more often than NASCAR. You can't miss them, and they are probably close to you some rural place!
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I was looking at the DIRT website, couldn't find an Ontario date, might try and get to one in NY state
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I would love to see 3/4 midgets at IRP!
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I believe the Outlaws will be at the track near Brighton On. I cannot recall the name right now. It is probably listed on their website.
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I saw the Sprints are running down by Brantford, but couldn't find anything on the late models
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Old 13 Jan 2007, 16:46 (Ref:1814360)   #14
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It is the sprints I want to see live. TV just isn't the same. We used to travel on business to Lancaster Pa. once or twice a year and still never made it to a race. The WOO were never there when we were but the Pa. Posse drivers are very good and often can beat the Outlaws. About the only ones who can and several of them have travelled with the WOO in past years.
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What is THIS thread doing in the IRL forum?
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well simply put USAC is part of Grass roots racing and the IRL's original vision (ok so it seems to have changed now) was to tap into this huge talent pool of Grass roots racing and bring drivers on from sprint cars and other forms of speedway racing into the Indycar series.

while there still maybe a few of these guys that get through to the top , sadly it isnt much the case anymore.

I am happy to discuss USAC events in here as there really isnt another forum for it to be discussed on and because of what was a close tie in between Indycars and USAC events I dont see a huge problem is talking about it here.
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Stevie Smith started out in the Pittsburgh area, Leighton.

Thank you for allowing this thread to stay open marcus!

Just to add to why it should be here is that for many years the dirt-tracks were THE source of Indy-bound talent here. What we like/don't like about it and why it is no longer the case can be discussed logically here.

Two of our greatest drivers ever came up this way (Mario and AJ Foyt) and a third who was no slouch came from off-road: Rick Mears.
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Silver Crown at the Thunderdome (downunder)

Love it all but NEED to see the Silver Crown series - back to the 50s with Bob Tattersall in the Offy then NASCAR Aussie style in the 90s - what is the longest track the Silver Crown use in Nth America?
Someone help me with the dream....
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Silver Crown used to run a schedule dominated by mile tracks (both dirt and asphalt). Race distances were 50 to 100 miles. I know they ran Gateway in Illinois once, which is 1.25 miles. They may have run Homestead, which is 1.5 miles, or someplace similar.

I know nothing about today's Silver Crown series, which is an abomination of what it used to be.
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The longest, fast sprint car race ever, was an IMCA 300 miler at Atlanta Speedway in the early sixties.
They were going to do it again the next year but another sanctioning body offered more money for their race and it never happened again.
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The longest, fast sprint car race ever, was an IMCA 300 miler at Atlanta Speedway in the early sixties.
They were going to do it again the next year but another sanctioning body offered more money for their race and it never happened again.
My Error, 200, not 300 miles.

"The IMCA Peach Blossom 200 (miles) was held on October 11, 1964, and was promoted by American Raceways, Inc. Greg Weld was not the winner, but did win the pole at a tour of 157.434 MPH; the fastest IMCA sprint lap in history. It's entirely possible that this was the fastest average speed ever turned for a lap by anything classified as a sprint car, anywhere.
Leo Caldwell won in a Ford-powered upright. Other top finishers:

2nd - Clare Lawicki
3rd - Curly Boyd
4th - Sam Sessions
5th - Red Amick
6th - John Logan

Average Speed - 124.998 MPH (probably also a record for a long sprint car race).

Caldwell won $4,125 of a total purse of $25,000; 28 cars started the race. Six of the year's 13 USAC National Championship races paid a lower purse."
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The longest, fast sprint car race ever, was an IMCA 300 miler at Atlanta Speedway in the early sixties.
They were going to do it again the next year but another sanctioning body offered more money for their race and it never happened again.
Not so sure that would be the fastest. The World of Outlaws ran Syracuse up to fairly recently and went pretty darn fast. Then of course, there's the couple of times they put dirt on Bristol, which was very fast.

Edit: Sorry Bob, just realised you were talking about asphalt. Thought you meant dirt. Disregard.

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Fastest lap I've heard of from a short track style car would be Troy Regeir's lap at the Pikes Peak one mile oval. He set a 22.586 with a 159.36 mph average. The car was a Hyder Hawk supermodified with a 430 ci small block. That is called a "world record" but for what I don't know.


Car can be found here:

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Quick question: Are you talking about what is now Atlanta Motor Speedway, or the old Lakewood Speedway dirt mile that held races until the 1970s?
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