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Old 29 Oct 2007, 07:26 (Ref:2053806)   #1
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Top 20 German cars

Following on from the previous threads, here is the German

1 Porsche 911
2 Mercedes 300SL
3 BMW 1500
4 VW Golf
5 VW Beetle
6 Porsche Boxster
7 NSU Ro80
8 BMW 520
9 Audi Quattro
10 Mercedes-Benz CLS
11 VW Transporter
12 Opel Diplomat
13 Opel Ascona
14 Mercedes-Benz SL “Pagoda”
15 Mercedes-Benz 600
16 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3
17 BMW M1
18 BMW 3.2 CSL Batmobile
19 Bitter Coupe
20 Audi TT

Some of their reasoning doesn't make a great deal of sense to me, eg including the original BMW 520 because later models were good??? And I'm not sure about the comment “the 1982 Audi 100 was clearly the same design, with new headlights and flush glass” as the NSU Ro80! I'm sure there are a few pre-war cars that would push out things like the BMW 1500, 520, Golf, Pagoda SL, CLS and the Bitter Coupe. Surely the original 1896 Benz deserves a place for starters!
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Old 29 Oct 2007, 23:34 (Ref:2054479)   #2
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Strange list.

However, on no account should the SL Pagoda be pushed out. It is IMHO the only genuinely beautiful German car unless you include the Auto Union grand prix cars.

Which Porsche 911? All of them? And if so, we be so specific with the BMW 520? I would say the 5 series should be included as a model range, simply because it is and always has been the best mid-sector executive car.

As an iconic performance car and successful racer, the MkI M3 should arguably be there. I'm not sure about the Golf and the Beetle - unless you make it the Mk1 Golf GTI - the original hot hatch.

And finally - not entirely sure why the Boxster is so high up - it's not even a proper Porsche!
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Old 30 Oct 2007, 03:12 (Ref:2054548)   #3
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Yes it was a reference to "all" 911's! I agree, a very strange juxtaposition including a specific 5-series (not to mention possibly the worst!). I can only conclude it was something they only did on Friday afternoon until it was time to knock off.

Mind you when I get some time I will put together a list of what I consider to be the Top 20 Australian cars. It should include a couple of surprises.
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Old 30 Oct 2007, 09:36 (Ref:2054683)   #4
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There'll be more than a couple of surprises to me - I can't think of 20 Australian cars...
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Old 1 Nov 2007, 10:21 (Ref:2056693)   #5
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Prepare to be surprised! Eg 4 wheel drive & 4 wheel steer in 1907... ok it was a truck but the company concerned subsequently made a car.
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Old 1 Nov 2007, 11:48 (Ref:2056792)   #6
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I'm looking forward to your list John and perhaps a robust debate to follow.
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I can imagine how that debate might go in here, centred around two distinct lists - one with no Holdens on it, and one with no Fords on it...
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I can imagine how that debate might go in here, centred around two distinct lists - one with no Holdens on it, and one with no Fords on it...
Aaahhh, so you know some Australians then?

I own a Holden and a Ford, does that make me bisexual, bilingual, ambidextrous or just plain odd?
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Old 5 Nov 2007, 12:52 (Ref:2060108)   #9
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Let's just say it means you've got a foot in both camps, so to speak.
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Hurry up John, i'm waiting! I'm sitting here ready to go, i've even got my debating hat on.
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Old 8 Nov 2007, 11:05 (Ref:2062869)   #11
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I may be some time (not as long as Lawrence Oates though) as I'm in the middle of moving house at the moment!
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Ohhhh, i am never moving house again. I grew up as an army brat and I've had enough moves to last me a lifetime. Good luck.
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this are the best car of the Germany.This car is very popular in the world.they are best for driving on any type of road.
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911 is a legend indubitably
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Which 911? It's a 50 year run and they've changed a bit over that time [sarcasm/].

And what about the Unimog?


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I would have said the Mercedes 190E, the first baby car, was a gamechanger for the brand, and a very good little device back in 1985
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Quite. I wonder if I can find the time .................!
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I would have said the Mercedes 190E, the first baby car, was a gamechanger for the brand, and a very good little device back in 1985
As the owner of a 1985 190E 2.3-16 I would have to agree.


(Holy thread resurrection, Batman! )


P.S. Anyone wanna buy a 1985 190E 2.3-16? Hardly use the thing and it costs me twenty quid a week in storage!
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