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25 Mar 2003, 21:29 (Ref:547978)
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Alesi backs Massa and Fisi
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Devo dire che continuo a guardare i GP come un vero tifoso - ha detto Jean, attualmente impegnato nel campionato Dtm come pilota ufficiale Mercedes - ho visto la gara in Australia e la prima impressione è che ci siano state molte più emozioni rispetto agli anni scorsi. Personalmente mi sono divertito, anche se poi il risultato finale è stato molto condizionato dal meteo”. “Il finlandese della McLaren in questo momento è il più veloce - spiega - è bravo, fa dei bei sorpassi, è molto positivo. Io personalmente però apprezzo molto Felipe Massa”.Jean, del resto, è rimasto nel cuore di tanti appassionati per la sua guida focosa e aggressiva. “L'anno scorso ho seguito Massa e ho visto in lui quelle doti che mi fanno divertire. E lo stesso vale per Montoya. Purtroppo questa F.1 è molto condizionata dal valore delle monoposto. Un altro ottimo pilota, per esempio, è Giancarlo Fisichella, ma la Jordan non gli permette di dimostrare tutto il suo valore”. ---------------------------------------- I have to say that I continue to watch GP's like a real fan - I saw the Australian race and my first impressions are that it is much more exciting than last year, even if the final result was very much conditioned by the weather. The Finn from McLaren in this moment is the fastest, but I appreciate Felipe Massa the most. I saw Massa last year and I saw those traits in him that make me enjoy watching him. And the same for Montoya. Unfortunately, this F1 depends alot on the value of the car. Another excellent driver, for example, is Giancarlo Fisichella, but the Jordan doesn't allow him to demonstrate his value. |
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25 Mar 2003, 22:54 (Ref:548124)
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I liked Massa as well
 He started off as a pizza delivery boy  HAHA the good old days
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26 Mar 2003, 09:16 (Ref:548437)
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Yeah Alesi is very much backing the drivers with similar driving styles to his.
As for Fisi, well all the drivers love him don't they. Hence the Bernie he won last year. |
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26 Mar 2003, 10:16 (Ref:548502)
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Fisi is so wasted at jordan, Maybe Mclaren next year or Toyota
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26 Mar 2003, 10:27 (Ref:548515)
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Just imagine the fuss if Fisi parked a McLaren on the wrong spot on the grid!
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26 Mar 2003, 10:37 (Ref:548525)
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Giancarlo must be allergic to one of the chemicals in the Malaysian air, which much cause brain problems.
The support for Massa is interesting, but in fairness Jean didn't crash much in his early days, unlike Massa, so I'm gonna stand by my view that Felipe isn't ready for F1 yet. |
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26 Mar 2003, 11:55 (Ref:548582)
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What happened with Fisi? I missed this in the highlights? I can see he retired early - didn't even set a lap time...
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26 Mar 2003, 13:23 (Ref:548694)
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Overheated the clutch when he was going for his parking license at the grid. That's how fragile these things can be...
But I still believe Fisi's a damn talented driver. He's just woeful in car parks. I'd like to see him at Toyota. He'd make a great partner for DaMatta.
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26 Mar 2003, 13:38 (Ref:548721)
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Surely Fisi is going to have to really show something damn soon to be in with any chance of a decent ride next year? I still rate him - in the 2nd division though. Deserves to retain his place in F1 but if I was a major team manager, he would hardly be top of my "wanted" list....
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26 Mar 2003, 14:27 (Ref:548776)
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Nice as always Alesi...we surely miss you in F1.
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26 Mar 2003, 14:45 (Ref:548802)
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What the hell do you expect him to show in that pig of a car? Just like Alesi said, the car DOES NOT ALLOW him to show his true worth - so what do you want from him? For cryin out loud, he's demolished every teammate he's ever had! His peers have voted him most underrated driver. He took that piece of **** to three 5th places in a row last year? What more would convince you? Last edited by Inigo Montoya; 26 Mar 2003 at 14:46. |
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26 Mar 2003, 14:56 (Ref:548818)
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It's a real shame the top teams have never courted him...
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26 Mar 2003, 22:52 (Ref:549386)
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Why though? There must be a reason the top teams pass on Fisi. I sure as hell don't know what it is, but there must be a reason.
Serious question. I've asked people to speculate on this before but nobody has come up with a logical answer. It can't be personal conflict, he could'nt have upset all the top guys. For whatever reason they don't rate him as highly as the public do, and to be honest, they are in a better position to judge than we are. Any takers? |
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26 Mar 2003, 22:59 (Ref:549396)
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I was going to say his english has always let him down - "I am very 'appy" - but hey - look at Kimi.
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26 Mar 2003, 23:42 (Ref:549437)
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Why has he been passed over? Why is Ralf driving at Williams, when it now appears that he doesn't deserve the seat? Why is Sato a test driver, while Firman has a seat? Why has DC remained at McLaren despite having underacheived for all these years? These are all equally valid questions.. Because circumstances have not been so for the logical thing to happen. There are only 3 top teams: At Ferrari, they refuse to sign Italian drivers. At Williams, they already had a glut of good talent Montoya, Schummy Jr (?) and Button, and before that a former WDC in Hill signed -no room. At McLaren, its been Hakkinen, DC, and now Kimi. Hakkinen is a great champion, and Kimi is the WDC of the future - but why didn't Ron sign Fisi and dump DC? That is a good question. I can only speculate its because he wants one driver who can speak proper English with the right accent and all that to keep the Brits happy? |
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27 Mar 2003, 13:43 (Ref:549972)
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I don't think it's a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He's been a long time there. Look at Alesi - highly rated, adored by fans and others drivers - even him had his chance with the big teams. In the opposite, Rubens it's not highly rated among drivers and fans, and we claim that he sold his soul to be a good number 2 in Ferrari. But yet he is one of top three driver today. Conclusion, our judgment is very different from the experts, and they know something we don't. |
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27 Mar 2003, 14:24 (Ref:550011)
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You are probably right Aysedasi... But it will be a big shame...
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27 Mar 2003, 14:28 (Ref:550015)
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He's in one of top three teams, for sure... but one of the top three drivers? This means you rate him higher than one of: Juan, Michael, Kimi... Besides those three, I rate Fisi, Heidfeld, Jacque$, Button and *perhaps* (its a bit early to say) Alonso higher than Rubens... Why did he get the Ferrari drive? Because he was willing to play second fiddle to Michael... |
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27 Mar 2003, 15:01 (Ref:550046)
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Rubens is a solid driver - very quick when things are to his liking. Top six certainly, for me. He's a bit like DC in my mind - tough and professional, quick under the right condiditons, but lacking that certain edge that makes the difference.
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I didn't say that he's one of the 3 top drivers - The experts say that, and that's why he is in one of the top teams and Fisi is not. Once again, you see, we fall in the same cycle. Why Fisi - who is around about the same time that RB is - is not in one of the top teams ? Quote:
The current standings are TGF, DC and RB, correct if I'm wrong, but remember, it's not me that says so. Quote:
But he states to the world that Ferrari wanted him to be next champion. Do you believe it ? Neither I... but them again, who knows ? |
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27 Mar 2003, 15:28 (Ref:550072)
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Nah, i'll get a tattoo of Dubya on my butt when Rubinho becomes an F1 champion with Ferrari.
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27 Mar 2003, 15:32 (Ref:550075)
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In any case, Fisi WILL go to a strong team, and, mark my words:
Depending on which team he goes to: he'll make Flabio regret treating him like ****, Frank re-examine his conscience for signing Ralf long term, he'll have Ron up late at night questioning why he continues to give DC a ride, and finally - he'll make Ferrari look like fools in the eyes of Italians worldwide... FORZA GIANCARLO!!!! ps: of course, once he figures out which grid spot to park in...
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27 Mar 2003, 16:53 (Ref:550149)
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I'll be glad when it happens.
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