SBR testing Monday

[ford boy]

SBR are testing tomorrow ahead of Eastern Creek and hopefully they will have the same demon setup as they had there earlier this year, Paul Forgie said they were trying a couple of different things.

[tiko]

thats generally what you do when you go testing - try different things!

[Wizzby]

If they have the same beast they had earlier in the year, I'd be asking questions why they haven't had it for the last 3 rounds if I was Marcos!

And they might have the same, but it looks to me that Kmart and HRT will be on the same pace

[Archer]

Despite, KMR having run #51 VX earlier this year I too think the VY will be suprisingly quicker than SBR next week, they car and the driver are just in the Zone man, Ambrose and SBR are a little off song, now with out Campbell are going off song even more.

Go Murph!

[mmciau]

And Murphy is race fit after the Bathurst weekend so that will help him too

Mike

[TheGspot]

Marcos seemed a little down in the mouth during his interview will bill the boy woods on 10 yesterday, maybe all the rumours of his move and the loss of little is playing a bigger part in his attitude at present than even the team will admit.

[Frosty]

The loss of Little won't affect Marcos' performance as much because Little is Ingall's engineer. Paul Forgie is Marcos' engineer. I think the test will put them back on their game and will be on the money out of the box come Friday.

[jetsetter]

Originally posted by mmciau
And Murphy is race fit after the Bathurst weekend so that will help him too

Mike

I think what will help Murph is that he's extremely confident at the moment & with the year he's had to date who could tip against him winning the championship.

[Grimace]

Illl be suprised if Marcos is on the pace with Murphys and Skaifes car

Hope im wrong !!! Marcos will have the fight of his life on the weekend!!!

[Phase3]

Originally posted by jetsetter
I think what will help Murph is that he's extremely confident at the moment & with the year he's had to date who could tip against him winning the championship.

I will, Marcos doesn't have to beat Murphy, or Skaife for that matter.

Whilst I don't know the exact possie he needs to finish, the bottom line is Murphy needs to win races, Marcos doesn't.

[Dave HRT Moy]

A little birdie tells me all was not well at the practice day....seems two SBR people in particular are still unlikely to be sending each other Christmas cards this year.

I don't wish any "bad" luck on SBR or Ambrose in particular. But gee, they're making it pretty much as hard as they possibly can for themselves.

[jetsetter]

I think SBR are feeling the pressure & are letting it get to them, their best chance of success this weekend is to just relax & treat it like a normal race.

[GTRMagic]

I dont think SBR is feeling any pressure, its more likely a media beatup than a reality.

The drivers may not be the best of buddies (and should build a bridge to get over it as they will be together 2 more years!) but I am sure that is more the driver of car #4 externalising his own demons to all and sundry.

One or both of them will get the appropriate kick up the posterior before race weekend and it will all come back to them.

[Joe5619]

Originally posted by Dave HRT Moy
A little birdie tells me all was not well at the practice day....seems two SBR people in particular are still unlikely to be sending each other Christmas cards this year.

I don't wish any "bad" luck on SBR or Ambrose in particular. But gee, they're making it pretty much as hard as they possibly can for themselves.

Do tell us more!!!

I'm a Ford fan..... But if they loose this I'm good to laugh (when cry!!!)... Specially when you consider where SBR/Ambrose have come from at the middle of the year!!!

[Conrod Kieron]

Originally posted by Joe5619
Do tell us more!!!

I'm a Ford fan..... But if they loose this I'm good to laugh (when cry!!!)... Specially when you consider where SBR/Ambrose have come from at the middle of the year!!!

I wouldnt worry to much Joe, its was probably just a Liar Bird

[Gudgeon]

My informant at SBR tells me That the PMM Sirromet Holden was the quickest car at Qld Raceway yesterday then Marcos then Russell then the 888 cars and Speedy bringing up the rear

[GTRMagic]

Glad to see the new engine spec at PMM is working a treat. Bring on Eastern Creek, it will get a workout there.

I would have thought PM would still be totally stuffed after the strong 3rd place in the 24hr however....

[Wizzby]

Originally posted by TheGspot
Marcos seemed a little down in the mouth during his interview will bill the boy woods on 10 yesterday, maybe all the rumours of his move and the loss of little is playing a bigger part in his attitude at present than even the team will admit.

I wouldn't really say down in the mouth, more just totally unrealistic about the whole situation. This is a big deal, not just for this year, but for his whole career I think and just treating it like another round doesn't really work. I think he's relying on the fact that he only has to finish top 5 in both races to make sure he wins (or that's what I figured out) Skaife and Murph on the other hand are going to go hell for leather and I don't think Ambrose can really be bothered to try keep up.

[Grimace]

Originally posted by Gudgeon
My informant at SBR tells me That the PMM Sirromet Holden was the quickest car at Qld Raceway yesterday then Marcos then Russell then the 888 cars and Speedy bringing up the rear

Once again shows a Parity adjustment will be needed 2004 for FALCONS. THE VYs have the car speed-i wont stop saying it-Blind freddy can see it

[vatuloa]

I'm certain parity will be an issue after Eastern creek Paul Morris had speed at Sandown but he appeared to loose it after that and he does not have a good record of going forward through the field.

[GTRMagic]

PMM has a car that seems to handle well, but lacks poke in a straight line.

Having watched the driver flog the little Porsche for over 6 hours on the weekend, its not a driving talent issue!

[Grimace]

Originally posted by vatuloa
I'm certain parity will be an issue after Eastern creek Paul Morris had speed at Sandown but he appeared to loose it after that and he does not have a good record of going forward through the field.

Vatuloa it is only the two of us who can see "the writing on wall" >>>>FALCON Parity adjustment or a VY walkover for sure for 2004. Nothing is more certain- as sure as night and day!!!!

[GTRMagic]

I know it looks that way Grimace, but we are yet to see the full powerhouse of SHRT, KKRT & PWR VY/VY's equipped with Auroras to see what they can do.

There is no provision in the Parity section of the Supercar rulebook to make a parity change of the makes in any manner other than the lap averaging system. And it takes 5 cars of the specified model to do this, so perhaps the delay in introducing genuine VY/VY/Auroras is political more than technical :confused:

[Onlooker]

I doubt that some little tiff between the drivers will cause any real strife,some teams churn through "equal #1" drivers at the rate of one per season and still get fantastic results

[Grimace]

GTR i understand the way it works- just a damn shame the full VY spec wasnt run by everyone this year- I want something to cheer about- but its looking like a 2004 one make series win coming up again- NOT good for the sport!!! Not good at all...........they bet to act quickly in some way shape or form!!!