WTCC Kent, United Kingdom (Rounds 11 & 12) - 17th - 18th July

I Rosputnik · 12 Jul 2010, 09:54 (Ref:2725329)

Rounds 11&12 of the World Touring Car Championship - 17th - 18th July
BRANDS HATCH

Introduction

We've just had the World Cup, Wimbledon and the British Grand Prix, but now it's time for the WTCC round at Brands Hatch. Four Brits are racing here; Robert Huff, Andy Priaulx, Harry Vaulkhard and Colin Turkington, as well as some ex-BTCC champions; Yvan Muller, Alan Menu and Gabriele Traquini. Also this race gives a look into the future with Volvo using this race and Japan as part of a evaluation program for a possible entry for next years WTCC. Also joining the series is Stock Car Brasil champion and South American Super Touring Car Champion Carlos "Cacá" Bueno racing with Chevrolet. Cacá is rumoured to be racing for Honda next year in the WTCC.

Track Information

14 Laps per race
3,703 Metres long
Former Formula 1 track
Brands Hatch is part of Jonathan Palmer's MotorSport Vision.

Current Top Ten

Yvan Muller - 164 points
Gabriele Tarquini - 149 points
Andy Prialux - 117 points
Robert Huff - 104 points
Tiago Monteiro - 99 points
Alain Menu - 86 points
Tom Coronel - 78 points
Augusto Farfus - 75 points
Fredy Barth - 41 points
Jordi Gené Guerrero - 36 points

Timetable (GMT)

Warm Up 1 - 09:00 am - 09:30 am
Warm Up 2 - 01:00 pm - 01:30 pm
Qualifying - 03:00 pm - 03:35pm
Warm Up 3 - 10:00 am - 10:15 am
Race 1 - 12:05 pm - 12:35 pm (Eurosport 1 and HD)
Race 2 - 14:20 pm - 14:50 pm (Eurosport 2)

Further Information

Discussion!

British win?
Volvo and Honda for WTCC 2011?
How annoying is Eurosport?

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redshoes · 12 Jul 2010, 12:04 (Ref:2725401)

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

How annoying is Eurosport?

What have they done or not done this time? Other than race two not being in HD, which is hardly the end of the world, it looks fine to me.

m1fcf · 12 Jul 2010, 12:10 (Ref:2725406)

Dont forget, although not relevant to this thread, this weekend also sees the F2 cars racing. There are three full days of track action to enjoy.

I Rosputnik · 12 Jul 2010, 12:52 (Ref:2725443)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

What have they done or not done this time? Other than race two not being in HD, which is hardly the end of the world, it looks fine to me.

I dunno, I just like the races in HD. Sounds petty, but then again I'm just over reacting.

At least there's no beach football on this week.

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For a dire year, this season has proven that the WTCC can still stand on it's own two feet somewhat, I have to say. Also the more international line up of drivers shows how far the series is spreading. I just hope most of the rumours about next year are true.

I Rosputnik · 13 Jul 2010, 12:35 (Ref:2726068)

Forgot to say, Tom Boardman is racing this weekend as well.

dj4monie · 14 Jul 2010, 23:07 (Ref:2726842)

I was wondering what else was going on this weekend and I haven't check my schedule yet.

I Rosputnik · 17 Jul 2010, 10:32 (Ref:2727938)

Rob Huff is quickest in first practice.

Jon411 · 17 Jul 2010, 10:34 (Ref:2727939)

Looking at the pictures on the WTCC website, the BMWs of Priaulx, Farfus, Engstler and Benanni (as well as Poulsen and Turkington) appear to have the older aero kit on - without the vents on the bonnets and the old style rear light arrangements. Tim Coronel, and the two Proteam cars have the newer look bits on their cars, which seems odd.

Sodemo · 17 Jul 2010, 11:04 (Ref:2727949)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon411

Looking at the pictures on the WTCC website, the BMWs of Priaulx, Farfus, Engstler and Benanni (as well as Poulsen and Turkington) appear to have the older aero kit on - without the vents on the bonnets and the old style rear light arrangements. Tim Coronel, and the two Proteam cars have the newer look bits on their cars, which seems odd.

Yep, well spotted.

I Rosputnik · 17 Jul 2010, 11:10 (Ref:2727950)

Testing parts I guess?

**touringlegend** · 17 Jul 2010, 12:36 (Ref:2727974)

Read on Tom Coronel's twitter that the BMW's with old aero kit were -75kg's..

Pettersson · 17 Jul 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2727984)

Quote:

Originally Posted by touringlegend

Read on Tom Coronel's twitter that the BMW's with old aero kit were -75kg's..

I think this is an obvious example on the health of WTCC...

No wonder Weichers and Bennani changed to their old car (the yellow one). So, a world championship where you get a better chance of winning/finnishing higher up by using an older car? Great...

I Rosputnik · 17 Jul 2010, 13:41 (Ref:2727991)

Practice 2

Sheesh, the WTCC needs a shake up.

Monkey Head · 17 Jul 2010, 13:55 (Ref:2727995)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pettersson

I think this is an obvious example on the health of WTCC...

No wonder Weichers and Bennani changed to their old car (the yellow one). So, a world championship where you get a better chance of winning/finnishing higher up by using an older car? Great...

not really
the difference just because Factlifted model of 320si (RBM,Proteam and Engslter) are and older E90 is in different base on compensation weight calculation....if factory team hasn't change the car you won't get advantage on older model

I Rosputnik · 17 Jul 2010, 14:35 (Ref:2728007)

Common sense prevails!

Sorry BMW just because everyone else has 40kgs, does not mean you can be different.

Monkey Head · 17 Jul 2010, 14:57 (Ref:2728010)

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Common sense prevails!

Sorry BMW just because everyone else has 40kgs, does not mean you can be different.

I conquer with you.
If they alowed to reduce weight that will destroyed the championship:would they go back to updated kit after it dropped weights from compensation weight timing?

I Rosputnik · 17 Jul 2010, 15:09 (Ref:2728013)

Chevrolet 1,2,3

Happy Turkington is 4th.

trebor901 · 17 Jul 2010, 15:40 (Ref:2728026)

Why is Andy Priaulx running the old shape BMW 3 series this weekend? the same model as Turkingtons

redshoes · 17 Jul 2010, 16:29 (Ref:2728065)

Priaulx/Farfus ran the older aerokit car in FP1 but switched back to the newer version of FP2 when the FIA threw out their application to change cars. The regs say that a manufacturer team can not revert to an older model once they have raced a newer homologation.

It's all a bit of a nonsense anyhow. The ballast weights are decided based on the WTCC's complicated formula of taken the fastest two speeds from each model over all sessions from the last 3 meetings. The older spec BMW are on less weight because they are cars used by the slower teams. If the works team used the older spec then the fastest times would go up and in either 3 meetings time (or less if/when they won a race) the older cars would be max ballast as well.

Alfa Fan · 17 Jul 2010, 16:38 (Ref:2728075)

The sooner these ludicras rules are changed the better. The WTCC is the only championship I can think of where this sort of thing happens...(apart from perhaps the STCC too).

skells22 · 17 Jul 2010, 18:28 (Ref:2728161)

got pen news for this. Priaulx decide to change engines therefore go down 10 places and Poulsen will start last due to parc ferme rule breach.

I Rosputnik · 18 Jul 2010, 11:53 (Ref:2728416)

Muller wins race 1!

Turkington was awesome.

Sodemo · 18 Jul 2010, 12:14 (Ref:2728423)

Good race overall, action up and down the field.

Not sure about Priaulx's pass on that SEAT at Graham Hill, I have a feeling he might get a penalty for that, though I have seen worse go unpunished (Tarquini @ Oscherslaben for example).

skells22 · 18 Jul 2010, 12:54 (Ref:2728429)

just been told that we might have to wait on a Menu fia checking after he went down to 7 place on the last lap and this means we have to wait for both results.

I Rosputnik · 18 Jul 2010, 14:31 (Ref:2728456)

BMW 1-2 with Priaulx and Turkington.

Crazy race.

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