OBSCURE F2 cars 1964-66

KWhittle · 6 Jan 2006, 16:05 (Ref:1496261)

Can anyone supply and information and photos of the
Conrero F2
Emeryson SCA
Lova DKW
BWA Lancia
Panther DKW
Starke DKW
Focus Ford

I am sure someone will know something !
KDW

L-G Sjöberg · 7 Jan 2006, 10:19 (Ref:1496671)

The Focus Ford must be the Focus-Ford Mk IV 1962 formula junior. When FJ was replaced by F2/F3 in 1964, the Swedish FJ championship was continued as a F2 championship allowing cars under the previous FJ regulations to run unaltered. The Focus Mk IV was originally built for and raced by Örjan Atterberg, but he had a fatal accident with the car in Helsinki in 1963. The car was then raced by P-O Zetterström in the Swedish "F2" championship from 1964 onwards.

The car now resides in Norway and we will hopefully see it back in historic racing this season.

Focus did build another single seater after that for Formula 3, but to my knowledge it was never completed in period although it has now got FIA papers and appear now and then equipped with a body looking somewhat like a BT21. Actually AB Sportscars in Stockholm, who manufactured the Focus cars, used the frame of the new car as a storage shelf.

L-G

Steve Wilkinson · 8 Jan 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1497242)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhittle

Can anyone supply and information and photos of the
Conrero F2
Emeryson SCA
Lova DKW
BWA Lancia
Panther DKW
Starke DKW
Focus Ford

I am sure someone will know something !
KDW

1964 Abarth-FIAT 232
1964/65 De Tomaso F4
1964 Gemini Mk IV A
1965/6 LDS-Ford Mk 5 (was this an F2 or a F Libre?)

PS did either the Conrero F2 or the BWA-Lancia ever appear? Wasn't the Lova-DKW an FJnr car?

allenbrown · 8 Jan 2006, 12:56 (Ref:1497257)

LDS MK 5?!?

I think you mean the pair of BT10-based LDS; one fitted with a 1600cc twin-cam and one with a 2-litre Climax. This is South Africa so they were just racing cars, nothing as specific as a F2. And "Mk 3" or "Mk 5" is a designation that was applied later by historians, not by the builder.

The first one was probably built with a view to running in the Gold Star category for 1600cc engines that was introduced after South African F1 moved to 3000cc but that's pure speculation.

Allen

**John Turner** · 8 Jan 2006, 14:51 (Ref:1497282)

I have split this thread and moved the posts on the Conrero which has developed into the specific Canadian series discussion, as per Allen's suggestion, here:-

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78093

allenbrown · 8 Jan 2006, 14:57 (Ref:1497286)

Thanks John. I realised I'd badly diverted this thread and that was a bit unfair to Kevin and others.

WANHER · 8 Jan 2006, 15:29 (Ref:1497303)

The Lova DKW was in fact a belgian car and already totally outpaced in 1961, was entered in 1965 at Grand Prix des Frontières by Roger Beguint, a garagist.

Robert

roger saretzki · 18 Jan 2006, 20:22 (Ref:1503984)

i have an foto from an BWA at nürburgring -- hochenheim in 1968 .
rogerracing@web.de

KWhittle · 29 Jan 2006, 14:38 (Ref:1511299)

Roger is this the F2 car ?
KDW

roger saretzki · 22 Feb 2006, 19:58 (Ref:1529289)

sorry , its a f3.................

regards roger

KWhittle · 23 Feb 2006, 09:59 (Ref:1529702)

I would still like to see the photo if possible please, can you post here or email me direct.

Thanks

roger saretzki · 23 Feb 2006, 18:34 (Ref:1530017)

hi kevin
how can i get a picture into a thread ?
roger

Pete Fenelon · 24 Feb 2006, 11:42 (Ref:1530616)

> 1964 Abarth-FIAT 232

Steve, I'm about 99% certain there's a pic of that in Hodges' A-Z of Formula Racing Cars. The first pic in the book in fact! - I'll check tonight.

KWhittle · 6 Jan 2012, 16:23 (Ref:3008211)

I am still seeking photos off these cars. Either period or modern photos please

Kevin Whittle

Frank de Jong · 6 Jan 2012, 18:19 (Ref:3008283)

You might find one or two cars here:
http://www.dlg.speedfreaks.org/archive/cars/cars.php
The Abarth 232 is there allright.

It was a sort of "youth sin" before I got involved into something else; the data is unchanged for at least 10 years and might contain errors. I intended it for personal use only but someone convinced me that it would be of use for some of you out there...

KWhittle · 7 Jan 2012, 10:59 (Ref:3008573)

Frank,
thank you, there is plenty of information to keep me going.
I am 1/3rd way through the book. Just written and prepared to print the 1964 season. Then adding details of all the cars that took part in the F2 races.
To bring that to life I am collecting data and of course images.
So thanks for your kind help
Kevin

D-Type · 7 Jan 2012, 17:08 (Ref:3008593)

If it's for a book, as opposed to private research, remember that the law of copyright does apply even if someone has put a photo into the public domain by publishing it without the [copyright] owner's permission.

KWhittle · 7 Jan 2012, 17:13 (Ref:3008596)

Yes I understand that and have sought approval of copyright owner before using any images.

Kevun

lucyfeet · 13 Jun 2012, 15:53 (Ref:3090225)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhittle

Can anyone supply and information and photos of the
Conrero F2
Emeryson SCA
Lova DKW
BWA Lancia
Panther DKW
Starke DKW
Focus Ford

I am sure someone will know something !
KDW

You have mentioned the Lova. I am trying to research the same car. have you had any luck? I think I have been able to place it on a grid in rouven in 64. Would love to hear something..

http://formulajunior.com/CAR_TYPE_LIST/lova.htm

KWhittle · 13 Jun 2012, 16:15 (Ref:3090233)

Soirry Lucyfeet, no luck here either
Kevin

lucyfeet · 13 Jun 2012, 19:35 (Ref:3090337)

Hi Kevin,

This is what I believe it to be so far !! It started life as a front wheel drive formula junior and was useless. So got converted to a rear wheel drive with a DKW works engine.

There were only 10 frames produced and 2 of those were destroyed in a fire. I know the the chassis number on the car that we have is number 4. I also know that the lova dkw featured in the German and French fj races over a number of years between 60 and 64 with the drivers Willy Vroomen and jean claude Franck. It looks like Willy Vroomen owned the racing team. It then appeared in F3 spec in 65 and 66. Now after that its vanished into the mystery of time, until now. It will be back, maybe not in the race circuit and actively racing but certainly in the paddock of the meets..

well if you find any thing Id love to hear.

KWhittle · 14 Jun 2012, 08:05 (Ref:3090553)

Lucyfeet, of course if I find anything out I will contact you
Kevin

lucyfeet · 14 Jun 2012, 17:08 (Ref:3090963)

Thanks Kevin..

Paul

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Canadian East Zone Formula Championship 1968 (split from-OBSCURE F2 cars 1964-66)	Marcus Mussa	Motorsport History	29	14 Mar 2013 22:19
Obscure Brazilian Racing Drivers	chris bailey	Motorsport History	4	5 Apr 2006 23:32
Obscure FJ	graham allen	Motorsport History	23	11 Nov 2005 08:31
Beagle - obscure F3 car	ghinzani	Motorsport History	13	24 Oct 2003 21:29
a great site for obscure books	dretceterini	Cool Sites	3	18 May 2002 15:09