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18 Aug 2004, 08:19 (Ref:1070226)
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De Cadenet Lolas
How many where built and how much was 'Lola'390
Le Mans 78 had 3 entered which tells at least 3 where built, The cars seemed to have a long shelf life, so where the existing cars revised or new ones built. |
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18 Aug 2004, 12:35 (Ref:1070415)
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I know one of them - called LM4 - appeared in Can-Am very briefly in (about) 1979.
So that suggests there were four. Allen |
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18 Aug 2004, 13:18 (Ref:1070465)
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I am ashamed to admit this as it shows up how much rubbish is retained by my memory. I can remember an article in Motor or Autocar from early 77 about the De Cadenet being taken into a wind tunnel and descibing a bunch of detail modifications to the bodywork to reduce drag/increase top speed on the Mulsanne straight. I believe it was around this time they started being called De Cadenets and not Lolas. They ran with the mods at Le Mans in 77 and I vaguely remember it may have all been to do with the magazine sponsoring the car - Did they pay for the wind tunnel time?
Don't have a copy of the magazine anymore. |
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18 Aug 2004, 14:27 (Ref:1070521)
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We touched on this briefly in the T280 thread (around page 4-ish!)
Probably only 2 true T380s, the rest being de Cadenet, on which the LM4 which Allen mentioned is one. HU2 (the 1001st Lola bult I think!) went to Jolly Club in 75, and they used in through to 77 at least. Not sure whether the LM# is proper notation, in addition the first Ecosse C2 car was based on a chopped de Cadenet. Anyway, de Cadenet's 75-76 car went to Simon Phillips / Dorset Racing, and maybe to Francy Jerancic, who had a large accident in 1989 Interserie. This iwas often quoted as the basis for the original Group C ADA, but that car appears to be actually based on a unraced (maybe) T29x Lola . 77 car went to John Cooper, raced as the SG Lola. Not sure the fate of this. the 78 car (Allen's LM4) retained / raced through to 81 (81 LM as the Belga liveried car) In this notation, LM-1 is the original Duckhams Special. Any corrections gratefully received... |
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19 Aug 2004, 06:04 (Ref:1071160)
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This proberly wont help but here goes.
In 2001 there was 1 listed as a Lola De Cadenet T380 (Dorset Racing Colours)in the Rosso Bianco Collection, Aschaffenberg Germany. I have looked at my photo but cannot make out all, what is written on the plaque int front of car. Last edited by mickj; 19 Aug 2004 at 06:05. |
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19 Aug 2004, 19:14 (Ref:1071847)
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I can't send a picture (anymore, why not?) but I drove the Cooper/Lovett Lola in 79 at Le Mans.
Lovely car for that race, but lack of testing meant we were a bit unsorted. retired around 5 in the morning with shorting electrics and no clutch from about 9. Sports car DFV in it. Cooper got it up to 8th early on. Beautiful. |
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John, hi. re picture attachments, see this message:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...94#post1071794 Last edited by Andrew Kitson; 19 Aug 2004 at 19:47. |
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20 Aug 2004, 03:34 (Ref:1072230)
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Thats the car. I hope you get to visit Rosso Bianco, Its sport car heaven. The only F1 car was Graham Hill's Hill in Embassy colours. |
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21 Aug 2004, 21:22 (Ref:1073904)
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A de Cadenet from 1977 was in the Le Mans Classic last july. Its chassis number was "GLC 913". Don't ask us about what it means...
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21 Aug 2004, 22:48 (Ref:1073967)
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I must admit I've seen a reference to that chassis somewhere before, but can't for tthe life of me remeber where. The only thing GLC means to me is Greater London Council... Coyotes, was this the Belga-liveried #20 car that raced in the Classic?
Either Autosport or Motor Sport (think it was the latter) referred to the chassis of the de cadenet that became the Ecoose as "ADC/78/1". This notation also appears in "Time and two Seats". |
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22 Aug 2004, 10:58 (Ref:1074250)
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GLC - Gordon (Murry who design updates made it the narrow car it was)
L - Lola (basis car) de Cadenet - (instigated the programme) ! No ... Last edited by gfm; 22 Aug 2004 at 10:58. |
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22 Aug 2004, 11:10 (Ref:1074260)
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Nordic said "I would love to go to Rosso Collection."
u get the comfy car for the long 6-7 hr drive & i will book the ferry!  re 380/390 cars seen ad for car for sale via Chris fox will check what model it is |
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22 Mar 2005, 09:11 (Ref:1258678)
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There's a French guy that has documented all Lola Sportscars. Can't remember the url. Will post tonight.
PRF PS - He's also featured De Cadetnet's |
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22 Mar 2005, 09:13 (Ref:1258679)
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there is a french book on sports cars out featured in autosport this week
£40 in french but many good colour pics mostly on 2 litre sports cars and lists all race entries |
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22 Mar 2005, 16:24 (Ref:1258967)
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Which was the car he raced in the TV documentary comparing his and Guy Edwards Le Mans race in the early 80's? (82?)
De Cadenet shared the car with the Martin brothers (IIRC) in Belga livery. Guy Edwards shared his car (was it a Lola) with De Villota and a Spanish driver. edit - looking at the list it looks like the 1981 Le Mans was featured in the film Last edited by Super Tourer; 22 Mar 2005 at 16:29. |
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After a bit of digging I found an answer to my own question about GE!
http://www.teamdan.com/archive/wsc/1981/81lemans.html Emilio de Villota (E)/Guy Edwards (GB)/Juan Fernandez (E) Lola T600 Ford HU03 Grid Team Lola Some great names in those results! Last edited by Super Tourer; 22 Mar 2005 at 16:36. |
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22 Mar 2005, 16:52 (Ref:1258987)
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FYI
emilio de vilotta is spanish do u mean him as the spanish driver or another spaniard |
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22 Mar 2005, 18:51 (Ref:1259078)
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In addition - it was Fernandez I was missing - he brought money from Danone for the drive (IIRC).
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23 Mar 2005, 08:00 (Ref:1259515)
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Although I cannot say for sure which year it happened, I am fairly certain that one of the de Cadenet cars that ran at Le Mans used the DFV that had, in 1972, powered the Connew F.1 car.
Peter Connew was told by McLaren, from whom the engine was borrowed, that he could sell it on and it was to Alain de Cadenet that it went. From there, naturally, it found its way into a Le Mans car. Again, without concrete evidence, I believe it now resides connected to an F.1 car at Donington. |
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23 Mar 2005, 08:45 (Ref:1259550)
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the dfv went into the duchams de cadanet car
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9 Jun 2006, 09:26 (Ref:1630467)
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What do you think of that ?
De Cadenet au Mans (7 participations et 11 voitures)
Year Nbre Désignation Châssis probable 75 1 Lola T 380 – HU01 76 1 T 380 – HU01 77 1 ADC/77/01 (GLC 913) ou T290 ou T390 ? 78 2 De Cadenet ADC/78/01 T290 ou T390 Lola T380 – HU01 Dis/Simon Phillips Racing(Bat) 79 3 Fisons Lola T286 Lola T281 SG ADC/78/01 ? Lola T380 – HU01 ADC/77/01 ? 20 ème /Simon Phillips Racing (Fisons) Ab/John Cooper Racing (St Georges) 80 1 ADC/78/01 ? 81 2 De Cadenet LM ADC/78/01 ? ADC/77/01 ? Ab/Dorset Racing Year Nbre Désignation (Lola T380 ou ADC/77/01 ou T294 ?) Classement/Team 82 1 C 83 1 C Junior 84 1 C2 |
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oups sorry the Excel file do not go well
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