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8 Mar 2003, 03:05 (Ref:528417)
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Why did Wilson come in on his hot lap?
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8 Mar 2003, 03:06 (Ref:528418)
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Can he do that, I thought was againest the rules?
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8 Mar 2003, 03:07 (Ref:528420)
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And now Verstappen?
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8 Mar 2003, 03:07 (Ref:528421)
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It means his car doesn't do parc ferme so they can work on it all night. I don't like that.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:08 (Ref:528422)
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I thought maybe they had found a new line
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8 Mar 2003, 03:08 (Ref:528424)
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It's very clever but not particularly fair. It means they can put as much fuel as they like in the car too according to the ITV commentary.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:09 (Ref:528425)
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That sucks - I love Minardi but they should'nt be allowed to abuse the spirit of rules anymore than others.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:09 (Ref:528427)
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And will we see it at every race?
Do we take it Verstappen will be ahead of Wilson on the grid because he was quicker on Friday? |
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8 Mar 2003, 03:09 (Ref:528428)
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Brilliant move by Minardi. They were most likely going to be at the back of the grid anyway and now they can start the race on wwhichever tyres, however much fuel they like and do whatever they like to the car.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:11 (Ref:528429)
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Not very sporting though, I don't agree with that at all.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:12 (Ref:528430)
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If it's within the current rules I hope it's changed before the next GP.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:12 (Ref:528431)
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What about the 107% rule?
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8 Mar 2003, 03:13 (Ref:528432)
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Its' scraped Gunslinger, but I still thought they had to qualify?
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8 Mar 2003, 03:14 (Ref:528433)
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Another thing, with rain a possible for tomorrow, if needed they can run a full wet setup.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:14 (Ref:528434)
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A loophole in the new rules already?
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8 Mar 2003, 03:14 (Ref:528435)
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Why wouldnt they have to go Parc Ferme? My guess is that they were trying to save 1 laps worth of fuel. Without the 107% rule they will be on the grid anyway.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:16 (Ref:528437)
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The commentators said that about the parc ferme, I didn't know anything about that one.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:36 (Ref:528443)
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To me it's a legitimate tactic. The only way they'll have a real advantage is if it does rain heavily for the race.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:37 (Ref:528444)
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Yeah, they now said that here too. I cant see this being permitted for the next race.
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I hope not - If Ferrari did something like this (abused a loophole) there would be hell to pay.
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8 Mar 2003, 03:53 (Ref:528459)
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Does there time from Friday count?
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Not really a big risk, they would have qualified last anyway.
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No, the time from friday does'nt count, everyone without a time will be at the back(wich would be the case with Minardi anyway if they would have set a time, they still have a lot of work to do), and the first driver to NOT set a time(also drivers who crash) is in front of the 2nd who does't, So Justin will start 19th, Jos 20th.
It's a tactical choice, there is a very large change it will rain tomorow, Minardi can see how the weather develops and setup their cars for rain if it does, they can also refuel and they can try to sort out some problems they still had because they did'nt have much testing(gearbox software seems to have bugs) It is a BIG loop hole in the new rules, expect more teams to do so if there is chance of rain in the future...... |
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8 Mar 2003, 04:23 (Ref:528492)
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107% rule
According to ITV it DOES still apply!
A post qual interview with Stoddart gave the impression that Friday times count towards 107%, but not the grid. He also gave the impression he'd checked on the legality of their tactic before the qualifying session started. He says that as they've only had one shakedown of each car before this weekend, they had done nowhere near the amount of work on the car that they would have liked. As a result, they're taking advantage of a loophole in the rules, which allows them to work on the car between qual2 and the race as long as they don't set a time in Qual2. Both cars should start fronm the pitlane tomorrow. |
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