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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:30 (Ref:758347)   #1
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Rumour mill: Jordan/Penske/De Ferran..?

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns12072.html

The old rumour mill churns away, I think anyone seen in the same county as an F1 boss is in line for a drive...

Anyway, here we go - rumour that Roger Penske is in discussion with EJ about a ride in 2004 for Gil De Ferran.

You may remember that De Ferran is in fact retiring from the IRL this year, and thought to be from racing in general.

However he still hankers after an F1 ride, and has set RP on the case.

Ho hum...
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:33 (Ref:758351)   #2
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won't happen cos he will be seen as too old. Look what happened to McNish. Jordan need the money and a driver like Jacques to get them on up there but saying that they let Fisi go again now didn't they!!!





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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:42 (Ref:758357)   #3
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Surely hes too old at 35? + They always say that driving in indycar leads to a driver developing a driving style not suited to F1, and hes spent 10 years picking up 'bad habits'! He wont get much testing with cash strapped Jordan, either. Methinks he'd be better off retiring....
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:43 (Ref:758359)   #4
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Jordan need the money and a driver like Jacques to get them on up there
Er. Jacques who?
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:48 (Ref:758367)   #5
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hmmmmmmmm Jacques who!?
he used to drive a BAR car but now he doesn't. he shoulda left them before 02. Will let you see if you can guess his surname
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:49 (Ref:758368)   #6
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Nope not a clue. I can think of a guy that used to plod around in a BAR. Is that him?
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:56 (Ref:758372)   #7
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There was this guy calles jacques somethin-or-other in the 80's who failed to qualify a RAM a couple of times (i think his brother was called gilles) is that who u are thinkin of?
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 15:04 (Ref:758380)   #8
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Peter - what a terrible memory you have....
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 15:09 (Ref:758387)   #9
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 15:52 (Ref:758433)   #10
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I'd be astonished (but, at least in part, delighted) if this rumour turned out to be true.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 15:58 (Ref:758440)   #11
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Surely hes too old at 35? + They always say that driving in indycar leads to a driver developing a driving style not suited to F1, and hes spent 10 years picking up 'bad habits'! He wont get much testing with cash strapped Jordan, either. Methinks he'd be better off retiring....
'They' obviously haven't seen Montoya or Da Matta. Neither would've been as succesful in F1 if they'd've come straigh through from F3000.

He's not much older than Damon Hill was when he started,a dn he has lots of invaluable experience about racing, and coping with the bad times.

It still seems unlikely though, unless significant sponsorship can be found. Besides, I doubt Angela De Ferran will be happy.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 16:10 (Ref:758455)   #12
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This whole Jordan situation looks so sad I think I'd rather see them bring down the shutters for good than limp round at the back for another year.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 16:24 (Ref:758467)   #13
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Er. Jacques who?
Jacques the ripper???:confused: Who are you talking about PETER is this related to f1???:confused:

Or do you mean the guy who used to drive a BAR and has the highest amount of threads dedicated to him on the F1 forum?? (been almost a week since we had a JACQUES thread new record??)
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 18:07 (Ref:758601)   #14
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Big If, ... but if, then there is still Helio Castroneves, who is enough young to do F1 programme and he is staying with Penske for a long time
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 18:10 (Ref:758604)   #15
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I'd ,ove to see either of the Penske boys in F1, they are both brilliant road racers and it was a big loss to CART when they jumped ship.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 21:18 (Ref:758755)   #16
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Awww, don't get my hopes up like that!!! Do you know how badly I wanted to see Gil in F1 before he retired!?!? If this comes true I will be the happiest girl in the world... then again, if it doesn't I won't be too surprised.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 21:46 (Ref:758768)   #17
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Hmmm I doubt it will happen, but an interesting rumour.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 22:23 (Ref:758814)   #18
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Gil should retire. Please retire Gil!!!
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 23:09 (Ref:758851)   #19
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It would be interesting to have happen, the dollars certainly exist in Penske-land for it to be a possibility... Interesting for him to be Marlboro sponsored in the IRL and possibly B&H sponsored in the Jordan though... or is there still more details to be nutted out

And I thought Jos Verstappen would have rated pretty high in numbers of threads/posts/stories/fun...
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 23:39 (Ref:758864)   #20
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Bugger Gil moving to F1, what about RP coming back and finishing what he started in the mid '70's? Its EASY!! Buy Eddie out, plonk Helio and JV in a pair of Penske Toyota's on Bridgestone tyres, sponsored by Nokia, Pepsi etc and there we go. A fresh, new and potentially exciting F1 team for 2004!

Sorry about that little bit of temporary insanity! Gil won't drive F1.
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 00:31 (Ref:758891)   #21
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 00:37 (Ref:758895)   #22
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That's just like saying Minardi are going to race a two-seater next year with Kiesa/Baumgartner in the No.1 car and Senna/Ratzenberger in the other. Sorry, but its not gona happen!!
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While i can't see it happening i wouldn't discount anything when Eddie Jordan's involved, if the offer was right Eddie would give anything serious consideration.
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Yeah... that guy that's part of Brazilian gang that usually wins lots of Cart and IRL races... not too mention championships.

They also come downunder to win every now and then in Gold Coast

Da Matta (yeah... the F1 rookie of the year IMHO) used to race him... I think he won 2 Cart Championships and also a very famous race somewhere in the US!

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Old 22 Oct 2003, 01:55 (Ref:758928)   #25
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I kind of doubt it happening, but I'm pretty sure he could handle it. In fact Gil would be very well suited for it. Gil is very percise in his driving from both a physical driving perspective and from an analytical perspective. Gil turned down F1 opportunities earlier in his career, why not do it now for a year or two?
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