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4 Apr 2004, 05:59 (Ref:929112) | #1 | ||
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Average grid position after Bahrain
After Bahrain, average grid positions are:
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M.Schumacher 0 Barrichello 1.33333 Montoya 2.33333 Button 4.33333 R.Schumacher 5.33333 Webber 6.33333 Trulli 7 Coulthard 9.33333 Sato 9.66667 da Mata 9.66667 Raikkonen 10.6667 Massa 10.6667 Fisichella 11.3333 Panis 12.3333 Alonso 12.6667 Klien 13.6667 Heidfeld 14 Pantano 15.6667 Baumgartner 16.6667 Bruni 17 Discounting the best and the worst results (to avoid "flukes") the ranking would be: Code:
M.Schumacher 0 Barrichello 1 Montoya 2 Button 5 Webber 5 Sato 6 R.Schumacher 6 Trulli 7 Raikkonen 9 Coulthard 9 da Mata 9 Massa 10 Fisichella 11 Klien 12 Panis 13 Heidfeld 14 Pantano 15 Alonso 16 Baumgartner 16 Bruni 17 In this last case, average for each team is: Code:
Ferrari 0.5 Williams 4 BAR 5.5 Jaguar 8.5 McLaren 9 Sauber 10.5 Toyota 11 Renault 11.5 Jordan 14.5 Minardi 16.5 |
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4 Apr 2004, 06:51 (Ref:929183) | #2 | ||
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Just in case someone wonder how MS can have an average position of zero , I'm counting grid positions from 0 (pole) to 19 (last).
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4 Apr 2004, 07:35 (Ref:929203) | #3 | ||
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a 1-2 for ferrari! funny tho how sauber with all of it's package can't get to grips to the BS tyres
sakhir circuit was just magnificent! a contrast of the track n it's surroundings....a great change |
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4 Apr 2004, 07:56 (Ref:929217) | #4 | ||
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The way its going, I think Mr Schumacher will still be on zero at Brazil
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4 Apr 2004, 14:02 (Ref:929701) | #5 | ||
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Schummy - I cant really distinguish between the current driver standings and the rankings that you have given. Basically all you are doing is averaging out the grid positions of each driver using very simple stats, which will always end up with the chronological order of drivers exactly the same as their current rankings.
I have doubts about the utility of this ranking and how it might be useful in interpreting driver performance by any means. |
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How useful these stats actually are is questionable but then again most of the metrics used around here are a bit dodgy, fun none the less though! |
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4 Apr 2004, 14:17 (Ref:929733) | #7 | ||
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No, what I meant to say was that he is averaging out the grid positions but for what? Alright if he had given us a table with two columns:
- avg grid position - avg finishing position then it would've been useful as we could actually see whether qualifying at a good position, on average, has afected driver's finishing position or not? Even that, it doesnt require a rocket scientist to know that if you qualify better you hve more chance of finishing better. |
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4 Apr 2004, 19:29 (Ref:930065) | #8 | ||
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Grid positions usually shows the "pure" perfomance of cars (and driver's one-lap skill). Race positions are affected by reliability, driver errors (in so many laps, ONE driver error can through the car out of the race or in a very back position), crashes and hits with/by other competitors, etc...
I think that if FIA had to make a purely car raw perfomance championship, it would be thru a qualiication session format (a bit like in hill climbing and short rallies). Nowadays, parc ferme rule (and thus strategic decisions about fuel and tyres) makes it less clear than two years ago, but it somehow goes on telling what cars are "fast" and what cars are "slow". One driver/car who does better in WDC ranking that in grid positions means that it/he has mainly a good reliability/lack-of-incidents in race days. If the car/driver is better in grid positions than in grid, it shows the opposite. Obviously, this kind of data is just a part of the whole story. No one statistic can tell us what is going on with teams driver, but can give us some insight in some aspects. And, above all, ... it is fun for the freakies who love numbers I hope Ferrari is not so dominat in the rest of the season or else this and other kind of stats will be redundant (aaargh!) Last edited by Schummy; 4 Apr 2004 at 19:30. |
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4 Apr 2004, 20:13 (Ref:930125) | #9 | ||
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Great stuff Schummy. Thanks.
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