Is v8 a rip to the fans

[TSR]

Is the v8 supertaxi's are rip off to the fans, & is AVESCO & TC ripping us the paying public off.

Not only in entrance feesto the track but also in the bigpond deal as to me bigpond seems to crash alot, also in the lack of public response to the racing like takin races out of Australia. I could go on, but
I again do ask are they ripping us off

[dsg]

Originally posted by TSR
Is the v8 supertaxi's are rip off to the fans, & is AVESCO & TC ripping us the paying public off.

Not only in entrance feesto the track but also in the bigpond deal as to me bigpond seems to crash alot, also in the lack of public response to the racing like takin races out of Australia. I could go on, but
I again do ask are they ripping us off

No. I can, like everyone with a television watch most of the racing and get all of the results for free.

Mind you to get a more comprehensive coverage of the events as they happen you are being charged a premium.

In the end decide what you want.

[pete55]

The Fans are being ripped off at every opportunity; gate charges (because circuits pay huge fees to AVESCO), Bigpond, PS2 Live Timing, Mercandise (again fees have to be paid to AVESCO and the racing is so expensive that teams need to charge like a wounded bull for their merchandise).
After watching GTP today, i can't see the value in V8's at all. All GTP needs are some big name drivers and some more promotion and fine tuning of regulations.

[Conrod Kieron]

and then watch GTP become a big $$ circus like V8's though Pete. Remember the V8's were once a small circus like GTP.

Really, V8's are no different to any sport, its the top of the tree for motor racing, AFL is the top of the tree for football, you can watch a local game of footy far cheaper and its just as much entertainment, same as motor racing.

V8s are also in competition with other sports for our entertainment dollar and as such, has to be commercialised to stay viable.

Personally I can turn on the TV for free and watch the V8's, I don't buy merchandise (note other high profile sports have highly priced merchandise too) unless its an item I need, ie $10 Ford cap a few years ago and track admission I look at it this way - WA round cost me $150 for grandstand/pits over 3 days, thats a conservative 15 hours of live entertainment vs recently paying $100 odd to see We Will Rock You for 2 hours.

[mcurtis26]

Compared to entry prices for touring cars here in the UK, I find V8 Supercar very good value. A standard British TOCA meeting is 80 AUD upwards, and that is with the headline touring car races lasting less laps over 3 races than some V8 meetings have in a single race. Merchandise is also a lot cheaper, i've paid less for 3 or 4 items of V8 clothing (including shipping to the uk) then I have for a single item over here.

[marcus]

I think the support classes need something but I cant think what it is...............................

OHHHHHHHHH I know MORE OF THEM and decent ones.

then I would be happy paying the price of admission

[D.R.T.]

Yep the taxi's are rip off, to me anyway.
The reason, a day at the races at a taxi event compared to say Premier racing series, Procar almost isn't comparable.
Prices are hugely different and I cant understand why, when the both other series have great categories, less ego's and a far better package.

Comparing a taxi event say to a footy match, Say if I wanted to go watch the panthers on friday night would have cost $15 in the gate and $3 for a pie. Go and see the Swans a bit more but still not the $40ish whats required to get in to a taxi event. Crazy

[bartman71]

so what is the entry prices to the circuits like
living in tassie i have not had the chance to see them for 5 years

[The Pressure !!]

When TC see's this and realises that people are watching V8 supercars free on there television, do you think he might try and make it Pay Per View only on foxtel ??!!

Bet that thought has crossed his mind before.

[Onlooker]

These are for QLD

Prices Entry Only
3 Day Pass - Adult $60; Concession $40
Friday - Adult $10; Concession $7
Saturday - Adult $25; Concession $15
Sunday - Adult $45; Concession $25


Entry & Pitt Pass
3 Day Pass - Adult $75; Concession $60
Friday - Adult $15; Concession $13
Saturday - Adult $35; Concession $20
Sunday - Adult $55; Concession $40


A three day pit and paddock pass for 75 bucks is hardly taking to your rear with the ruff end of a pineapple. Even $45 for a Sunday general admission is pretty cheap.What else could you do with it? Go to a movie for 2 hours including 200grams on lollies a box of popcorn that you can hardly carry and a drink and carparking?

These are the Wallabies prices for 80 minutes of action

Platinum
Adult $78.00
Gold
Adult $66.00
Silver
Adult $49.00

The Lion King goes for what 2 hours
Price/s
$99.50, $40.50
Junior/Student price for selected performances: $70.50

The Who would be a great hour and a half at
Gold $199.00
Silver $99.00
Cindi Lauper would be 2 hours of some balst from the past and a bargain at
Premium $125
A Reserve $98
B Reserve $85

Looks like the cheapest show in town is infact the V8's,even a NRL match is around the $40 mark.

[Mattracer]

Originally posted by bartman71
so what is the entry prices to the circuits like
living in tassie i have not had the chance to see them for 5 years

A very salient point. But your time has come!

[D.R.T.]

Can't say I ever been to an NRL game that cost $40. Even a ticket to the Origin is only $30 for a basic seat.

[Woody75]

I have just recently attended the v8s at Barbagallo and as a Western Australian based person I believe its great value for money when u consider the nearest race team to WA is Team Dynamik 3000km away.

I paid $100 for 2 days racing and Paddock Admission. I think thats good value for a Western Australian round.

[Conrod Kieron]

OK, some further prices to compare to other sports. Saturday General Admission at Wanneroo - $50, this was the cheapest ticket for an adult (excluding concessions) a 3 day GA ticket was $70. That of course includes free parking. Kids under 12 free.

I don't follow football, whats the cost of a typical GA ticket, how many hours does it go for?


AFL Eagles cap - $24.95, FPR team cap $20

AFL Eagles Polar fleece top - $69.95, Bonded Polar top FPR $69

[FalconEL]

Originally posted by D.R.T.
Can't say I ever been to an NRL game that cost $40. Even a ticket to the Origin is only $30 for a basic seat.

I didn't think their were basic seats at an Origin game! Certainly not Game 2 at Suncorp this week. My ticket was a freebee but has $82.50 inc GST printed on it - I would have hated to have to pay for it!

The V8's are reasonable value if you only go to one round per year.

[Mattracer]

Now if only motor racing got the wall to wall, blanket coverage that football gets. Imagine being subjected to that? I would love it.

[mountainstar]

V8 supercars is cheap compared to what we pay to see NASCAR, ALMS and CART here in the states. And the merchandise is inexpensive too. I wouldn't complain. As others pointed out there are other activities that are just as expensive or more. So I think it boils down to people wanting something for nothing.

[mcurtis26]

As I said before, V8 is very cheap compared to UK prices, as I think are ALMS and CART. I've always found merchandise far cheaper from non-uk race series. I think V8s give very good racing for the money, I know i'd rather watch them to TOCA here in the uk any day

[D.R.T.]

Seeing the racing in the BTCC at the moment, I know what I'd rather watch

[BAZzzzz c]

Look, Do you Love this Sport or dont ya.???

In Paradise Lost, we only get one round of the mighty V8 Supercars, at ONE venue too. Many folk have to travel hundreds of miles to attend but they do it willingly AND pay to get in AND pay accom, fuel, eats, time off work etc. and so it goes on. For those that cant pay or wont pay, there is the telly and the mags. Comes down to how passionate you are about it all. Others here have pointed out alternative Sports Code prices. If ya likes'em, then you are likely to pay withot a grizzle.
Dont forget though, that these Mighty Men are risking a million times more than the entry price that you and I pay, They are risking EVERYTHING they have in the World to be bolted into those Superdoopercars for their (and their Teams) immediate and personal satisfaction but also for yours and my entertainment. Never forget then that in reality, you and I are never going to be in such dangerous circumstances and that my friends is what its all about for me. We are paying THEM to give us the thrills of this gargantuan Sport. Over-expensive.?? I do not think so.
Watch it on the telly if you can but think on about what's at stake for the participants. Dangerous jobs deserve big paypackets and why shouldnt you and I contribute 'til it almost makes our eyes water?? If you dont want to, there are many alternatives. Lawn bowls at 10 paces for a couple of bucks eh??
Cheers.

[BAZzzzz c]

Oh yes, and then there are the freeloaders that wont go unless they get a free ticket or bludge a Corporate spot........and even THEN they want ya to TAKE them there too.

These are the ones that spout on about how " Awww, we used to have motaracin' down at so n so but they dont put it on anymore. got nuffin ta do.!" HUH, cant think why..............but dont get me started. cheers again.

[V8 Superdave]

The only flaw in your argument, Bazzz, is that sadly, AVESCO is taking shyteloads of cash to simply be the major promoter or the series. It's geetting worse, too, with Cochrane demanding more and more corporate facilities.... what's getting our goat is that fact mate.

I'll still fork out my money to see them here in WA, but it irks me no end to see more and more corporate area, and no improvements as such for us "plebs". Hell, it was even to the point of ridiculous when the stunt team spent the bulk of it's time in front of the corporate area, and rarely got out to us in the general admission boonies.

I don't think anyone has a drama with drivers being paid lots, or teams needing the cash.... it's when AVESCO have a "pillage and plunder" mindset that we all get upset.

[mountainstar]

Originally posted by V8 Superdave
The only flaw in your argument, Bazzz, is that sadly, AVESCO is taking shyteloads of cash to simply be the major promoter or the series. It's geetting worse, too, with Cochrane demanding more and more corporate facilities.... what's getting our goat is that fact mate.

I'll still fork out my money to see them here in WA, but it irks me no end to see more and more corporate area, and no improvements as such for us "plebs". Hell, it was even to the point of ridiculous when the stunt team spent the bulk of it's time in front of the corporate area, and rarely got out to us in the general admission boonies.

I don't think anyone has a drama with drivers being paid lots, or teams needing the cash.... it's when AVESCO have a "pillage and plunder" mindset that we all get upset.

Insisting on excellent corporate facilities is a good move as the money men don't want to be sitting in mud. But I will agree completely spectator facilities need to be improved at most tracks in Australia. In my experience from the tracks I have seen, the spectator mounds, toilet blocks and food service could be much better.

[Pirtek Racing]

Originally posted by Conrod Kieron
OK, some further prices to compare to other sports. Saturday General Admission at Wanneroo - $50, this was the cheapest ticket for an adult (excluding concessions) a 3 day GA ticket was $70. That of course includes free parking. Kids under 12 free.

I don't follow football, whats the cost of a typical GA ticket, how many hours does it go for?


AFL Eagles cap - $24.95, FPR team cap $20

AFL Eagles Polar fleece top - $69.95, Bonded Polar top FPR $69

last year a SBR polar fleece top was around $50

eagles???...well at least you go for ford
$25 for a eagles hat is expensive, dockers hats cost $15 to 20

[DAVID PATERSON]

Round 3 of the State Championships is at Qld Raceway, Willowbank this weekend. There will be Historic Touring Cars, Formula Ford, Formula Vee, Sports Cars, Sports Sedans, Saloon Cars, HQ Holdens, Geminis and 38 Improved Production Touring Cars. 33 races over the two days. $10 per day for adults, $5 per day for concessions and kids up to 12 are free.