WEC 2024: Round 5 - Sao Paulo

Ferrari333SP · 11 Jul 2024, 11:27 (Ref:4218594)

This weekend!

FP1 begins tomorrow at 15:45 CET

FP2 is tomorrow at 20:15 CET

FP3 (free on Youtube) is Saturday at 15:30 CET

Qualifying is Saturday at 19:30 CET

Race is Sunday at 16:30 CET

Live Timing link: https://live.fiawec.com/en/

Better timing: https://www.timing71.org/

Ferrari333SP · 12 Jul 2024, 09:15 (Ref:4218684)

Sao Paulo Thursday Notebook

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...sday-notebook/

tomcug · 12 Jul 2024, 10:36 (Ref:4218686)

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...ock-notes.html
Single dive planes for the 499P since this round.

tomcug · 12 Jul 2024, 15:21 (Ref:4218704)

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...at-interlagos/
Peugeout leads red-flagged FP1. But I doubt they remain in that spot once others pick up the pace.

Articus · 12 Jul 2024, 16:01 (Ref:4218712)

Very strange session.

Gerard C · 12 Jul 2024, 17:28 (Ref:4218722)

More than strange best speed results. Best LMGT is 253 kph and the Isotta is only 229 kph. Am I missing something?

Mike E · 12 Jul 2024, 18:13 (Ref:4218726)

#78 Lexus withdrawn

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...fp1-shunt.html

**joeb** · 12 Jul 2024, 19:01 (Ref:4218731)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard C

More than strange best speed results. Best LMGT is 253 kph and the Isotta is only 229 kph. Am I missing something?

The track was wet at the beginning and very green after that. But no clue why Isotta so slow, maybe were working on corning setup?

tomcug · 12 Jul 2024, 19:03 (Ref:4218733)

Sandbagging for sure

In FP2 cars are exceeding 280 kph but still seems power gain above 250 won't matter much at this track.

Gerard C · 12 Jul 2024, 19:18 (Ref:4218736)

I'll tend to agree with you both in FP2 the Toyota #8 is at 286 kph and the Isotta at 260 kph. Improving but still far behind.

**Adam43** · 12 Jul 2024, 19:40 (Ref:4218740)

Probably practice (not sandbagging), conditions, and tows.

Need to see the spread, but I’m off to watch some rugby.

Gerard C · 12 Jul 2024, 20:02 (Ref:4218741)

Five brands in the top ten. The two french teams knocking at te door ATM.

Articus · 12 Jul 2024, 21:23 (Ref:4218744)

Average Top Speeds from FP2

Top speed distribution (4 manufacturers only)

Toyota > Porsche > Ferrari >> Cadillac on average

Articus · 12 Jul 2024, 21:32 (Ref:4218745)

FP2 Average S1

FP2 Average S2

FP2 Average S3

FP2 Average laptime:

The usual suspects lead the way (Toyota, Ferrari, Porsche, Cadillac). BMW also looks to make a mark.

Articus · 13 Jul 2024, 02:42 (Ref:4218759)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus

Average Top Speeds from FP2

Top speed distribution (4 manufacturers only)

Toyota > Porsche > Ferrari >> Cadillac on average

There's something off about the location of the speed trap this weekend. I don't think it's near the end of either of the straights.

From the onboards shown at the FIA WEC youtube channel, it shows a different picture.

Alpine -> 294km/h
Ferrari -> 292km/h
Porsche -> 291 km/h

top speeds.

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2024, 02:57 (Ref:4218761)

That makes sense. The trap speeds are pretty low.

Circuit map suggests it’s in a decent place, but maybe not.

http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Res...cuit%20Map.pdf

Articus · 13 Jul 2024, 04:33 (Ref:4218768)

According to the timing website, Alpine #36 top speed was 268 km/h, but according to the onboard footage, the #36 Alpine already exceeded 270km/h at the pit entry so it must be higher than that at the location which is designated as the speed trap on the map.

Gerard C · 13 Jul 2024, 07:51 (Ref:4218779)

As you stated the Alpine #36 top speed can be seen on the on-board footage, briefly doing 294 kph (1'30"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=315cEfuIPjk

tomcug · 13 Jul 2024, 09:57 (Ref:4218792)

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...ay-notebook-2/

Quote:

Nicolas Lapierre confirmed to Sportscar365 that a turbo issue that kept the No. 36 Alpine A424 out of action for a significant portion of FP2.

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2024, 13:52 (Ref:4218807)

Maybe they've been moving the speed trap around?

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2024, 14:34 (Ref:4218810)

The thing that most jumps out at me from the two practice sessions from yesterday is the difference in the number of laps completed. Across all cars 764 laps (21 laps each average) were completed in FP1 and 2,528 (68). Both sessions were 90 minutes.

Which drivers have been putting in the miles:

Driver	Class	Team	Manufacturer	#	Laps
Earl BAMBER	HYPERCAR	Cadillac Racing	Cadillac	2	57
Michael CHRISTENSEN	HYPERCAR	Porsche Penske Motorsport	Porsche	5	50
Julien ANDLAUER	HYPERCAR	Proton Competition	Porsche	99	48
Aliaksandr MALYKHIN	LMGT3	Manthey PureRxcing	Porsche	92	45
Paul DI RESTA	HYPERCAR	Peugeot TotalEnergies	Peugeot	94	45
Neel JANI	HYPERCAR	Proton Competition	Porsche	99	45
Sheldon VAN DER LINDE	HYPERCAR	BMW M Team WRT	BMW	20	43
Nyck DE VRIES	HYPERCAR	Toyota Gazoo Racing	Toyota	7	43
Valentino ROSSI	LMGT3	Team WRT	BMW	46	43
André LOTTERER	HYPERCAR	Porsche Penske Motorsport	Porsche	6	43
Richard LIETZ	LMGT3	Manthey EMA	Porsche	91	41
Francesco CASTELLACCI	LMGT3	Vista AF Corse	Ferrari	54	41
Marino SATO	LMGT3	United Autosports	McLaren	95	41
Marco WITTMANN	HYPERCAR	BMW M Team WRT	BMW	15	40
Robert KUBICA	HYPERCAR	AF Corse	Ferrari	83	40
Charles MILESI	HYPERCAR	Alpine Endurance Team	Alpine	35	39
François HERIAU	LMGT3	Vista AF Corse	Ferrari	55	39
Darren LEUNG	LMGT3	Team WRT	BMW	31	39
Brendon HARTLEY	HYPERCAR	Toyota Gazoo Racing	Toyota	8	39
Alessandro PIER GUIDI	HYPERCAR	Ferrari AF Corse	Ferrari	51	37
Laurens VANTHOOR	HYPERCAR	Porsche Penske Motorsport	Porsche	6	37
Mikkel JENSEN	HYPERCAR	Peugeot TotalEnergies	Peugeot	93	37
Jean-Karl VERNAY	HYPERCAR	Isotta Fraschini	Isotta Fraschini	11	36
Sébastien BUEMI	HYPERCAR	Toyota Gazoo Racing	Toyota	8	36
Erwan *******	LMGT3	D'Station Racing	Aston Martin	777	35
Claudio SCHIAVONI	LMGT3	Iron Lynx	Lamborghini	60	35
Sean GELAEL	LMGT3	Team WRT	BMW	31	35
Daniel MANCINELLI	LMGT3	Heart of Racing Team	Aston Martin	27	35
Antonio FUOCO	HYPERCAR	Ferrari AF Corse	Ferrari	50	35
Edoardo MORTARA	HYPERCAR	Lamborghini Iron Lynx	Lamborghini	63	34
Norman NATO	HYPERCAR	Hertz Team JOTA	Porsche	12	34
Benjamin BARKER	LMGT3	Proton Competition	Ford	77	34
Loïc DUVAL	HYPERCAR	Peugeot TotalEnergies	Peugeot	94	34
James CALADO	HYPERCAR	Ferrari AF Corse	Ferrari	51	34
Jean-Eric VERGNE	HYPERCAR	Peugeot TotalEnergies	Peugeot	93	34
Yifei YE	HYPERCAR	AF Corse	Ferrari	83	34
Will STEVENS	HYPERCAR	Hertz Team JOTA	Porsche	12	33
Marco SØRENSEN	LMGT3	D'Station Racing	Aston Martin	777	33
Daniel JUNCADELLA	LMGT3	TF Sport	Corvette	82	33
Esteban MASSON	LMGT3	Akkodis ASP Team	Lexus	87	33
Ferdinand HABSBURG	HYPERCAR	Alpine Endurance Team	Alpine	35	33
Miguel MOLINA	HYPERCAR	Ferrari AF Corse	Ferrari	50	32
Simon MANN	LMGT3	Vista AF Corse	Ferrari	55	32
Dennis OLSEN	LMGT3	Proton Competition	Ford	88	32
Nico MÜLLER	HYPERCAR	Peugeot TotalEnergies	Peugeot	93	31
Tom VAN ROMPUY	LMGT3	TF Sport	Corvette	81	31
Mike CONWAY	HYPERCAR	Toyota Gazoo Racing	Toyota	7	31
Daniil KVYAT	HYPERCAR	Lamborghini Iron Lynx	Lamborghini	63	31
Charlie EASTWOOD	LMGT3	TF Sport	Corvette	81	31
Thomas FLOHR	LMGT3	Vista AF Corse	Ferrari	54	31
Oliver RASMUSSEN	HYPERCAR	Hertz Team JOTA	Porsche	38	30
Ryan HARDWICK	LMGT3	Proton Competition	Ford	77	30
Dries VANTHOOR	HYPERCAR	BMW M Team WRT	BMW	15	30
Grégoire SAUCY	LMGT3	United Autosports	McLaren	59	30
Rahel FREY	LMGT3	Iron Dames	Lamborghini	85	30
Ryo HIRAKAWA	HYPERCAR	Toyota Gazoo Racing	Toyota	8	30
Sébastien BAUD	LMGT3	TF Sport	Corvette	82	30
Ian JAMES	LMGT3	Heart of Racing Team	Aston Martin	27	30
Alex LYNN	HYPERCAR	Cadillac Racing	Cadillac	2	29
Morris SCHURING	LMGT3	Manthey EMA	Porsche	91	28
Ahmad AL HARTHY	LMGT3	Team WRT	BMW	46	28
Rui ANDRADE	LMGT3	TF Sport	Corvette	81	28
Klaus BACHLER	LMGT3	Manthey PureRxcing	Porsche	92	28
René RAST	HYPERCAR	BMW M Team WRT	BMW	20	28
Franck PERERA	LMGT3	Iron Lynx	Lamborghini	60	28
Hiroshi KOIZUMI	LMGT3	TF Sport	Corvette	82	28
Mikkel PEDERSEN	LMGT3	Proton Competition	Ford	88	28
Robert SHWARTZMAN	HYPERCAR	AF Corse	Ferrari	83	27
Frédéric MAKOWIECKI	HYPERCAR	Porsche Penske Motorsport	Porsche	5	27
Christian RIED	LMGT3	Proton Competition	Ford	88	27
Kamui KOBAYASHI	HYPERCAR	Toyota Gazoo Racing	Toyota	7	27
Michelle GATTING	LMGT3	Iron Dames	Lamborghini	85	27
Nicolas COSTA	LMGT3	United Autosports	McLaren	59	27
Jenson BUTTON	HYPERCAR	Hertz Team JOTA	Porsche	38	27
Raffaele MARCIELLO	HYPERCAR	BMW M Team WRT	BMW	15	27
Yasser SHAHIN	LMGT3	Manthey EMA	Porsche	91	27
Alex RIBERAS	LMGT3	Heart of Racing Team	Aston Martin	27	27
Philip HANSON	HYPERCAR	Hertz Team JOTA	Porsche	38	26
James COTTINGHAM	LMGT3	United Autosports	McLaren	59	26
Takeshi KIMURA	LMGT3	Akkodis ASP Team	Lexus	87	26
Matt CAMPBELL	HYPERCAR	Porsche Penske Motorsport	Porsche	5	26
Nicolas PINO	LMGT3	United Autosports	McLaren	95	25
Nicolas LAPIERRE	HYPERCAR	Alpine Endurance Team	Alpine	36	25
Robin FRIJNS	HYPERCAR	BMW M Team WRT	BMW	20	24
Maxime MARTIN	LMGT3	Team WRT	BMW	46	24
Matthieu VAXIVIERE	HYPERCAR	Alpine Endurance Team	Alpine	36	24
Paul-Loup CHATIN	HYPERCAR	Alpine Endurance Team	Alpine	35	24
Sarah BOVY	LMGT3	Iron Dames	Lamborghini	85	23
Joshua CAYGILL	LMGT3	United Autosports	McLaren	95	23
Nicklas NIELSEN	HYPERCAR	Ferrari AF Corse	Ferrari	50	23
Stoffel VANDOORNE	HYPERCAR	Peugeot TotalEnergies	Peugeot	94	23
Carl Wattana BENNETT	HYPERCAR	Isotta Fraschini	Isotta Fraschini	11	23
Kévin ESTRE	HYPERCAR	Porsche Penske Motorsport	Porsche	6	23
Clément MATEU	LMGT3	D'Station Racing	Aston Martin	777	23
Callum ILOTT	HYPERCAR	Hertz Team JOTA	Porsche	12	23
Joel STURM	LMGT3	Manthey PureRxcing	Porsche	92	23
Antonio SERRAVALLE	HYPERCAR	Isotta Fraschini	Isotta Fraschini	11	23
Mirko BORTOLOTTI	HYPERCAR	Lamborghini Iron Lynx	Lamborghini	63	22
Antonio GIOVINAZZI	HYPERCAR	Ferrari AF Corse	Ferrari	51	22
Matteo CRESSONI	LMGT3	Iron Lynx	Lamborghini	60	21
Jose Maria LOPEZ	LMGT3	Akkodis ASP Team	Lexus	87	20
Zacharie ROBICHON	LMGT3	Proton Competition	Ford	77	19
Augusto FARFUS	LMGT3	Team WRT	BMW	31	18
Alessio ROVERA	LMGT3	Vista AF Corse	Ferrari	55	18
Mick SCHUMACHER	HYPERCAR	Alpine Endurance Team	Alpine	36	16
Kelvin VAN DER LINDE	LMGT3	Akkodis ASP Team	Lexus	78	14
Davide RIGON	LMGT3	Vista AF Corse	Ferrari	54	13
Arnold ROBIN	LMGT3	Akkodis ASP Team	Lexus	78	2
TOTAL					3292

Articus · 13 Jul 2024, 14:38 (Ref:4218811)

Porsche looked very fast in the final session.

Articus · 13 Jul 2024, 14:41 (Ref:4218812)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

The thing that most jumps out at me from the two practice sessions from yesterday is the difference in the number of laps completed. Across all cars 764 laps (21 laps each average) were completed in FP1 and 2,528 (68). Both sessions were 90 minutes.

FP1 was ended 40 minutes early due to a heavy crash of the Lexus in LMGT3. As a result, FP2 was extended by roughly the same amount of time. The start of FP1 was also wet so overall not much running was completed in FP1.

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2024, 14:46 (Ref:4218813)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus

FP1 was ended 40 minutes early due to a heavy crash of the Lexus in LMGT3. As a result, FP2 was extended by roughly the same amount of time. The start of FP1 was also wet so overall not much running was completed in FP1.

Thank you. That's what happens when you just look at numbers and have no context.

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2024, 15:58 (Ref:4218823)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus

Porsche looked very fast in the final session.

Yeah, that was a quick lap. Toyota have more fast laps and lead the average over the Top 40, but Porsche gets closer again with more laps. That later will depend very much on conditions and how many laps they did.

Toyota have put the laps in...

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 20	Top 40	Top 60	Laps
1	7 Toyota	1:25.486	1:26.302	1:26.967	1:27.496	139
2	8 Toyota	1:25.521	1:26.532	1:27.034	1:27.403	144
3	6 Porsche	1:24.390	1:26.491	1:27.104	1:27.518	140
4	2 Cadillac	1:25.678	1:26.949	1:27.397	1:27.765	120
5	38 Porsche	1:24.764	1:26.642	1:27.397	1:27.909	117
6	83 Ferrari	1:24.909	1:26.862	1:27.404	1:27.824	136
7	51 Ferrari	1:25.770	1:26.895	1:27.509	1:27.972	128
8	12 Porsche	1:24.297	1:26.798	1:27.527	1:27.993	127
9	5 Porsche	1:24.309	1:27.183	1:27.616	1:27.927	139
10	35 Alpine	1:24.644	1:27.019	1:27.628	1:28.014	134
11	50 Ferrari	1:24.902	1:26.969	1:27.675	1:28.233	126
12	99 Porsche	1:26.442	1:27.340	1:27.693	1:28.105	124
13	93 Peugeot	1:25.110	1:27.131	1:27.724	1:28.224	138
14	36 Alpine	1:25.114	1:27.018	1:27.781	1:28.465	103
15	15 BMW	1:24.682	1:27.166	1:27.786	1:28.225	134
16	20 BMW	1:26.693	1:27.505	1:27.886	1:28.215	131
17	94 Peugeot	1:25.473	1:27.291	1:28.010	1:28.496	132
18	63 Lamborghini	1:24.723	1:27.555	1:28.058	1:28.402	124
19	11 Isotta Fraschini	1:26.965	1:28.041	1:28.802	1:29.388	115

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