Testing Speeds

[Roselady3]

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Pos. No. Driver Make Time (sec) Speed (mph)
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1 48 Jimmie Johnson Chev 49.151 183.109
2 8 Dale EarnhardtJr. Chev 49.409 182.153
3 22 Ward Burton Dodg 49.425 182.094
4 40 Sterling Marlin Dodg 49.487 181.866
5 5 Terry Labonte Chev 49.584 181.51
6 O9 Geoffrey Bodine Ford 49.597 181.463
7 31 Robby Gordon Chev 49.6 181.452
8 1 Kenny Wallace Chev 49.607 181.426
9 24 Jeff Gordon Chev 49.62 181.378
10 55 Bobby Hamilton Chev 49.703 181.076
11 71 Dave Marcis Chev 49.705 181.068
12 14 Stacy Compton Pont 49.747 180.915
13 36 Ken Schrader Pont 49.778 180.803
14 97 Kurt Busch Ford 49.822 180.643
15 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 49.849 180.545
16 4 Mike Skinner Chev 49.908 180.332
17 77 Dave Blaney Ford 49.939 180.22
18 6 Mark Martin Ford 50.015 179.946
19 32 Ricky Craven Ford 50.041 179.946
20 11 Brett Bodine Ford 50.103 179.63
21 44 Buckshot Jones Dodg 50.254 179.09
22 66 Todd Bodine Ford 50.322 178.848
23 26 Joe Nemechek Ford 50.567 177.982

[Racerex]

Maybe the Fords are sandbagging?
NOTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!
That is is dam funny like ford fast daytona help me!!! HAAAAAAA

[Roselady3]

Look at the top 10. There is 1 Ford there. That is Goeffrey- Now he HAS to do his best & impress for some sponsorship hopes. Of the rest of them- they either NEED to be impressive, or they have no worries for sponsorship.
You cannot tell me that at 178-180 miles an hour that those drivers gave it all they have! I am sure that sandbagging or positioning is occuring.
Let the whining begin!

[Racerex]

Well Geoff or whatever this week name is reckons to "ALI" "bell wrung one too many" sorry.
Furd family will whine, too slow bad aero and etc.
Dale should think bout drivin the truck cause JRs gunna have him make a few special deliveries,Marks just done,Roush... well you all know how bad that looks.
Maybe we should let em drive the FOCUS?
If they were equally prepared and one fell in the woods and no one heard it would Jeffy still not drive one in IROC?

[Lars]

It's the same thing every year...nobody shows their hand just yet. But you know the 48 will have a 24 rocket inside...he has to make the show...big sponsor & no provisionals. Same thing Gibbs & the 18 did for Tony back in '99.

[Lars]

As far as sand bagging goes...Dale Sr. was the master.

[Roselady3]

Results of Wednesday's Winston Cup testing at Daytona International
Speedway.

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Pos. No. Driver Make Time(sec) Speed(mph)
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1 22 Ward Burton Dodg 48.98 183.748
2 1 Kenny Wallace Chev 49.05 183.486
3 48 Jimmie Johnson Chev 49.069 183.415
4 24 Jeff Gordon Chev 49.11 183.262
5 55 Bobby Hamilton Chev 49.143 183.139
6 4 Mike Skinner Chev 49.187 182.975
7 5 Terry Labonte Chev 49.23 182.815
8 31 Robby Gordon Chev 49.243 182.767
9 11 Brett Bodine Ford 49.28 182.63
10 8 Dale EarnhardtJr.Chev 49.287 182.604
11 40 Sterling Marlin Dodg 49.291 182.589
12 O9 Geoffrey Bodine Ford 49.469 181.932
13 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 49.503 181.807
14 97 Kurt Busch Ford 49.517 181.756
15 71 Dave Marcis Chev 49.558 181.605
16 14 Stacy Compton Pont 49.56 181.598
17 6 Mark Martin Ford 49.597 181.463
18 77 Dave Blaney Ford 49.754 180.89
19 66 Todd Bodine Ford 49.757 180.879
20 44 Buckshot Jones Dodg 49.814 180.672
21 36 Ken Schrader Pont 49.85 180.542
22 32 Ricky Craven Ford 49.947 180.191
23 26 Joe Nemechek Ford 50.151 179.458

[The Beer Baron]

`Does anyone think that these speeds are too slow??

I preferred it when they were 190 mph +

[Roselady3]

Definatly! Too Slow & they are NOT giving it their all....or AKA sandbagging.
If these are the actual speeds that they will be qualifying at-
Lets all get the lawn chairs out for the 500! It will be a snooze fest! It won't be on our feet hollaring type racing. It will be our butts parked in the chair, prick me with a pin to keep me awake, type racing.

[The Beer Baron]

Qualifying speeds at Daytona last year were mid 180's , they aren't too far off that,

Are they using the roof deflector this time?

[Roselady3]

I thought that was part of the areo package that they terminated for this year. Nobody's been talking about the deflector- They are all talking about the smaller plates.

[The Beer Baron]

Originally posted by Roselady3
If these are the actual speeds that they will be qualifying at-
Lets all get the lawn chairs out for the 500! It will be a snooze fest! It won't be on our feet hollaring type racing. It will be our butts parked in the chair, prick me with a pin to keep me awake, type racing.

geez Rosie, you're making the off-season seem more exciting than the racing itself

[The Beer Baron]

Originally posted by Roselady3
I thought that was part of the areo package that they terminated for this year. Nobody's been talking about the deflector- They are all talking about the smaller plates.

How long before there are no holes in the plates

[Roselady3]

Sorry- I guess I'm just miffed about the smaller plates too.
I've got the feeling that the winner is gonna be whoever is at the front of the train when the checkered flag flies. Kinda like Bobby Hamilton at Talladega last year. COME ON! Bobby Hamilton? Give me a break!

I guess I want free racing, where they can go as fast as they want. Did SLOWING them down into packs make racing any safer? NO.

[Roselady3]

Originally posted by The Beer Baron


How long before there are no holes in the plates

No Holes?
Golly Gee- then it could be you & me racing out there huh?

[The Beer Baron]

With no holes it'll be which team can push the car around the track fastest over 200 laps!

[Roselady3]

Yeah- I was talking foot racing! LMAO

[Roselady3]

NASCAR isn't jumping at the Fords complaining.
Read This:

NASCAR Will Not Conduct Wind Tests


Thursday, January 10, 2002

By PATRICK ZIER
Ledger Correspondent






DAYTONA BEACH -- John Darby, Winston Cup Series director, said Wednesday NASCAR officials plan no wind tunnel tests based on speeds recorded here this week in tests or in the final session which begins Monday.

"We have no plans to take the cars to the wind tunnel following tests," Darby said. "We haven't inspected the cars, and just walking around, after all the cutting and chopping they're so different now than when they came off the trucks it wouldn't serve any purpose."

The top Ford teams continued to lag well behind the best Chevys in individual runs Wednesday morning, but picked up when the cars drafted for the first time Wednesday afternoon.

Fords driven by Kurt Busch, Ricky Craven, Mark Martin and Dale Jarrett topped 183 mph early in the afternoon, running just behind Ward Burton's Dodge and Kenny Wallace's Chevy.

All week, the Fords have been decidedly slower than the Chevys and claim they have a balance problem with too much downforce in the rear and not enough in the front.

Chevy spokesmen believe the Fords are deliberately keeping speeds down in hopes of getting a rule change allowing them to extend the nose of the car prior to the Feb. 17 Daytona 500, which would increase front downforce.

The Fords claim wind tunnel tests would prove they are at a disadvantage, but Darby indicated no wind tunnel testing is likely until after the race.

"We probably wouldn't do it after qualifying. We could do it after the (Twin) 125s, we have that option, but it's not likely," Darby said.

The cars would be in race trim for the two Daytona 500 125-mile qualifying races Feb. 14, but making a significant rule change between then and the Daytona 500 would pose problems since there would be little if any time to make adjustments.

"If we felt like the rules needed tweaking based on what we see in testing, the Bud Shootout and Speed Weeks, then we have that option," Darby said. "I wouldn't say we won't change anything. We'll take a look at it as we go along."

Ford Owner Jack Roush, who could have as many as five entries in the Daytona 500 (Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Kurt Busch, Matt Kenseth and Greg Biffle) said taking the cars to the wind tunnel "would be a good idea after qualifying or the 125s."

"I don't know that you could learn much by doing it now (after testing)," Roush said. "We haven't had our cars (Busch's cars) in the wind tunnel, yet. There's still a lot to be done on them."

[The Beer Baron]

Originally posted by Roselady3
Yeah- I was talking foot racing! LMAO

I bet I'd do my ankles in on the banking!

[Racerex]

True! DE Sr made a great game out of sandbagging and claiming "we aint no good but we will see what happens, Sterlin and them got a good run on us maybe we can catch a break on race day"
I forgot the BS that he would put out to the press that was a hoot!
Thanxs Lars ya made my day!!!!

[Roselady3]

Yeah- He was the master!
He'd say "We don't have nothing for them Fords today"
Then go out & win the race! LOL.
Mark Martin was always good for that too. he say "Our car is junk"
& sure enough he'd win! I'll take "JUNK" any day! LOL.

[The Beer Baron]

Maybe they're perfectionists and even though they have a car good eneough to win, they feel that the car could've been better? Or they're just playing mind-games with the competition

[Racerex]

Mark wasnt/isnt lieng his speedway car is usually JUNK!
Martin is a has been.I am sad to say as I watched Mark bloom in ASA we are the same age.(I am better looking) I think hes just about like T Labonte just ridin roundwastin time gettin paid.
Im jealous.

[Roselady3]

I was more or less thinking back a few years.
I don't count this last year as meaning too much for any of the older guys. Many of them had the shocker of their lives the very first race. Mark, Terry, Kenny--- (the list goes on-) They all can have a fresh season & do better this year over last. You remember that they said that about DE too- & he came back & gave it to em! Don't count them out. They could be there.