Your F1 wishlist?

[Lee Janotta]

Okay, here's a topic that should promote some discussion. Lets say you're suddenly put in Bernie Eccelstone's place. What's your F1 wishlist? Maximum five items, they have to be within reason (no bringing drivers back from the dead, killing anyone, or making Alex Yoong World Champion).

Here're mine:

1. Institute the rule changes I've talked about repeatedly (wider cars, slicks, less wing, simple spec electronics, open engine configuration, points for qualifying, lottery starting grid, 30-car grids, and customer chassis).

2. Buy all of Lotus, start a patnership with Cadillac as engine supplier and Goodyear as tire supplier, hire John Bernard as designer, and Phil Giebler and Justin Wilson as drivers (put A.J. Allmendinger and Paul Edwards in International F3000).

3. Get Giancarlo Fisichella into the second Ferrari, with NO TEAM ORDERS.

4. Get Jacques Villeneuve into Ralf Schumacher's seat at Williams.

5. Convince Cosworth to supply more teams, and bring in Porsche to likewise supply 3 or more teams.

[NiceGuyEddie]

Originally posted by Lee Janotta
Okay, here's a topic that should promote some discussion. Lets say you're suddenly put in Bernie Eccelstone's place. What's your F1 wishlist? Maximum five items, they have to be within reason (no bringing drivers back from the dead, killing anyone, or making Alex Yoong World Champion).

Here're mine:

1. Institute the rule changes I've talked about repeatedly (wider cars, slicks, less wing, simple spec electronics, open engine configuration, points for qualifying, lottery starting grid, 30-car grids, and customer chassis).

2. Buy all of Lotus, start a patnership with Cadillac as engine supplier and Goodyear as tire supplier, hire John Bernard as designer, and Phil Giebler and Justin Wilson as drivers (put A.J. Allmendinger and Paul Edwards in International F3000).

3. Get Giancarlo Fisichella into the second Ferrari, with NO TEAM ORDERS.

4. Get Jacques Villeneuve into Ralf Schumacher's seat at Williams.

5. Convince Cosworth to supply more teams, and bring in Porsche to likewise supply 3 or more teams.

1. points for qualifying is ridiculous. In qualifying the reward is the better gridposition. There is absolutly no reason the add any points on top of that reward. Plus, the given reward is for everyone the same, so we cannot expect drivers to try harder just because they would be able to get points. If teams and drivers want to climb up on the pointsladder to a end up with a shot at the championship, they simply need to build a car which is able to score regular points in the race. Really no reason to accomodate them with giving points in quali.

Lottery starting grid is a joke right? In that case we wouldnt need an actual qualifyingsession, we would just have to put the names in a big hat and have some pitbabe pull em out. Everything for the show ey?

30-car grids can never be a goal on its own in my view. It is about quality, not about quantity. The ones that have any business in F1 will stay, the ones that don't will dissappear. And rightly so, who needs a team that hasnt got any business in F1 to begin with? Economic downfall can't be the excuse. Every company has to deal with it, so why not a F1 team? Having said that; the more, the merrier

2. Who is Phil Giebler?

3. Teamorders never decided a championship at Ferrari, and they really havent decided that many raceresults. Plus, teamorders are directed at the driver who as the better chance in the championship. That doesnt have to mean M. Schumacher per se. That fact that he usually is the Ferraridriver with the better chance is of course pretty logical, he simply is that good. If any other driver was undoubtly quicker, Ferrari would have taken that one and guided him to the title with teamorders when and wherever needed. They just missed out on that title two times too many to be arogant enough to think they dont need teamorders. Be that as it may, Giancarlo in a Ferrari is of course a must.

4. Any driver replacing Ralf has my vote.

5. What would be the gained advantage in that?

Other than that, great wishlist. Oh, and I would like to see the return of the gearchange by stick. Makes for spectacular onboard footage.

[Lee Janotta]

Originally posted by NiceGuyEddie


1. points for qualifying is ridiculous. In qualifying the reward is the better gridposition. There is absolutly no reason the add any points on top of that reward. Plus, the given reward is for everyone the same, so we cannot expect drivers to try harder just because they would be able to get points. If teams and drivers want to climb up on the pointsladder to a end up with a shot at the championship, they simply need to build a car which is able to score regular points in the race. Really no reason to accomodate them with giving points in quali.

Lottery starting grid is a joke right? In that case we wouldnt need an actual qualifyingsession, we would just have to put the names in a big hat and have some pitbabe pull em out. Everything for the show ey?

Well, actually, yes... Melbourne was probably the most interesting race this season, because of wet qualifying and then a massive crash at the first turn. The grid was all out of sequence, and forced a lot of real racing. I'd pay to see a show like that on a regular basis. The points for qualifying both gives a reason to run on Saturday, and gives recognition to the fact that driving fast and racing well are not exactly the same disciplines.

30-car grids can never be a goal on its own in my view. It is about quality, not about quantity. The ones that have any business in F1 will stay, the ones that don't will dissappear. And rightly so, who needs a team that hasnt got any business in F1 to begin with? Economic downfall can't be the excuse. Every company has to deal with it, so why not a F1 team? Having said that; the more, the merrier

That's a bit socially Darwinist, don't you think, saying that because a team isn't supported by an enormous corporation, that they don't have any business being in F1? There's a reason they call it motorsport and not motorbusiness. _If_ teams have the option of buying last year's chassis from Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Jordan, or Renault instead of building their own, and _if_ we have a healthy supply of competitive engines available to small teams at a reasonable price (see wish #5), we can have a fast, tight 30-car grid. It's been done plenty of times before in the days of customer cars and Cosworth DFVs, in the '60s and '70s.

2. Who is Phil Giebler?

3 time Grand National Karting Champion
ISRA 125cc Gearbox Champion
2 time IKF Region 7 Champion
2 time Construction Cup Winner
Holiday Classic Champion
California State Champion
George Kugler Cup Winner WKA
Team Green Academy Winner
Skip Barber Formula Dodge Winner
ELF La Filiere Winner
2nd 1999 French ELF Formula Renault Campus Series
2nd 2000 French Formula 3(B) Championship
Champion 2000 British Formula Palmer/Audi Winter Championship
Currently 4th in Spanish F3 points (started season late with Azteca)

Along with Paul Edwards, Pat Long, and A.J. Allmendinger, one of American's brightest young stars.

Contrary to popular belief, some of us _do_ know how to turn right.

3. Teamorders never decided a championship at Ferrari, and they really havent decided that many raceresults. Plus, teamorders are directed at the driver who as the better chance in the championship. That doesnt have to mean M. Schumacher per se. That fact that he usually is the Ferraridriver with the better chance is of course pretty logical, he simply is that good. If any other driver was undoubtly quicker, Ferrari would have taken that one and guided him to the title with teamorders when and wherever needed. They just missed out on that title two times too many to be arogant enough to think they dont need teamorders. Be that as it may, Giancarlo in a Ferrari is of course a must.

Sorry, but that's just absolutely not true. Team orders were enforced at Ferrari in 1979 to give Jody Scheckter the championship over teammate Gilles Villeneuve.

The current problem is that team orders are in place before the start of the season. Reubens was never allowed to challenge for the championship. And I'd like to see how Michael really performs on an even playing field with a teammate of Giancarlo's calibre.

4. Any driver replacing Ralf has my vote.

Ditto.

5. What would be the gained advantage in that?

Goes with my wishes for customer chassis and 30-car grids. Backmarker teams can't even hope to move up without good powerplants.

Other than that, great wishlist. Oh, and I would like to see the return of the gearchange by stick. Makes for spectacular onboard footage.

I'd have no problem with that.

[NiceGuyEddie]

The adagio that its called motorsport instead of motorbusiness is true allthough a little naive. Have to go to my sis' birthday now, but i'll be back.

[kdr]

lee...your five things seem to have a vague "le mans-ishness" to them - i'm all for fisi in a 550 maranello

[Speedworx]

1. To get Ferrari to move to the IRL.

2. The banning of team orders

3. Get Hockenheim back to its former glory

4. Get 20 races in a season

5. Get more tyre companies

[nameless]

1. superpole style qualifying

2. many more teams

3. fisi alongside barri at ferrari with m schumi at minardi

4. abolition of mid race refuelling

5. abolition of driver aids such as traction control, auto gears etc.

[slicktoast]

My list, you don't have to like it!
1. Points to tenth.
2. Slicks-size constructor determined.
3. Raise standard for driver compartment safety.
4. No refueling.[fuel tank matches engine size need]
5. Actual OEM (over 50,000 units produced) based nat/asp engine at original capacity.

[Mr V]

Originally posted by slicktoast

5. Actual OEM (over 50,000 units produced) based nat/asp engine at original capacity.

What was that in English?

[paulzinho]

1. Ban driver aids, ie no LC, TC, bi directional telemetry, auto gearboxes...

2. Bring back the great circuits in their proper forms, Nordschleife, Old Spa, Brands Hatch, Old Interlagos, Ostereichring, Rouen, Clermont Ferrand, Old Kyalami, chicaneless and banked Monza, Monaco and Suzuka can stay, a race at La Sarthe with the 3 mile Mulsanne (no chicanes), Old Hockenheim, Watkins Glen, Bremgarten....

Thats 15 races, any suggestions? Bathurst?

3. Allow a variety of engines, including V8, V10, V12 and flat 8, 10, 12. Normally Aspirated and Turbos legal.

4. Bring back slick tyres and ban mid race refuelling, oh and ban these little winglets, they're ugly.

5. No limit on engines, bring back prequalifying if necessary.

[DNQ]

1. Traction/Launch control, Power Steering, Auto Gearboxes removed
2. Slicks, Semi-Auto Gearshifts, Carbon Brakes
3. 28 Car grid
4. Imola, Magny Cours, Barcelona, Hungary replaced
5. Better ITV feed

[Number Juan]

1. Bernie Vision free for everyone

2. Getting bored with the back of my eyelids on a sunday afternoon.

[DNQ]

Originally posted by DNQ
Carbon Brakes

I meant steel of course.

[f1manoz]

1. The unemasculation of all the great circuits - for starters, putting Hockenheim back to it's former glory, Silverstone as well... Also, get tracks like the Hungaroring off the calender. The F1 calender should be made up of interesting and challenging circuits, not 17 tracks that are basically the same.

2. Abolish all driver aids - TC, Launch control for example. Ban electronic gearboxes, manuel, stickshift devices only. This is supposed to be a DRIVER'S World Championship, not the Nintendo World Championship.

3. SLICKS!!!

4. Allow the 'bigger' teams to sell their previous chassis (last years only) to smaller teams.

5. Forget the 22-car only rule. More the merrier in my opinion.

6. Salary cap (more of a personal thing just so I don't have to keep seeing the stats about TGF's wages. I won't earn half of that in three lifetimes!!!)

7. Ban mid-race refuelling. There is absolutely no point to it (and having just read 'Life in the Fast Lane' by Steve Matchett, the mechanics agree.)

Basically, I think we all just want to see a vast improvement in the racing. F1 is now more global than ever with coverage seen in more countries than ever before.

[Valve Bounce]

I only have one wish, and that is for Mark Webber to get a drive at Williams, McLaren or Renault.

Valve

[Gt_R]

Nice topic...

First, i would like to point out i would really hate to see the starting grid artificially mixed in anyway. Starting positions should be left to one decided by ability, not by luck or some outside interferences. Leave these stuffs to WWF1 . However, i must admit, if weather causes qualifying to produce a mixed grid, it does promote some racing...

Points for qualifying i won't encourage, but not much against it too.. i would however prefer points to be awarded to the top 8 drivers instead to show recognition to the mid field guys who sometimes do put in great work.

I like Minardi, and i would be sad to see them go. They are a bunch motivated by the love for racing...their lack of cash due to lack of result (or vice versa) shouldn't be the main reason for their departure. So too Arrows (abeit for a different reason) i want them back.. They are in it for sports... lack of money should make them leave... But lack of performance ought to be kicked in the ass, especially those big $$ companies (hint: Jaguar, BAR)

30 car grids? Well...if they re-instate the old Nurburgring, Hockenheim, and have the classical big tracks like Spa or fast clean tracks like Monza... would 30 cars actually be great to watch... otherwise, it would just be a traffic jam at 200mph.

But some rather interesting ideas being brought up...i would stick around to get some ideas~

[M Power]

My list
1.Slick's back and more tyre makes
2.22 race per season and all old track put back to spec inc
Nurberg ,hock with more tracks add ie Africa China Russia New Zeland Netherlands.Brit gp moved to Brands& French to LeMans orginal spec track
3.More engine makes given encouragement to join
4. T.v package give to any country to hlod a gp inc LIVE Quail&Race
5.Races extended to 3hr events

[Daisy]

1. Button takes his seat back from Ralf.
2. The Ferrari will retire more often.
3. Davidson will drive a full season alongside Webber than we will see who's the more talented guy (and it's not Webber)
4. Augusto Farfus gets a seat in Formula 1.
5. Barcelona and the Hungaroring out, Jerez en Zandvoort ( ) in.

[Valve Bounce]

OK, maybe SchM to suffer gout in both big toes for next year.

Valve

[kdr]

the worrying thing is, out of all these good suggestions to get some fun back...how few, if any, will actually happen.

[*formula3*]

1. slicks
2. schu to arrows, if there is no arrows anymore, he will have no cockpit
3. mark webber gets ferrari seat
4. JV replaces ralf
5. no launch controll!
6. davidson stays at minardi

[*formula3*]

and ronnie quintarelli getting an f1 cockpit

[BootsOntheSide]

1 No driver aids (traction control, launch control, automatic gears etc. These are meant to be racers, not cloned sheep). On the otehr hand regulations as to the limits of car designs should be removed, I'd like to see the cars look identifiably different, to the point where a Ferrari painted as a McLaren wouldn't fool anyone.

2 No refuelling, leave the teams to then use as many tyres as they like

3 The supply of last year's cars to privateers (Sauber are quick using last year's Ferrari engine, at a fraction of what Renault, Jaguar and Toyota are paying)

4 Points for the top 10 (with a more competitive field)

5 Changes to the circuits- no Hungaroring, no Barcelona and no Imola (none of these even have Economic reasons for their prescence)- bring in at least 1 oval for variety, and tracks like Bathurst and the old Hockenheim (ideally the old Nurburgring, but I guess that's impractical)

[NiceGuyEddie]

There should be a minimum in circuitlength and a minimum in avarage speed.

[nameless]

6. someone like lola to supply a generic chassis to smaller teams to allow more teams to enter

7. points to 10th at least

8. cars which dont break after a small tap, must be much stronger while still being safe of course

9. two shorter races as opposed to one long one.....