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17 Aug 2003, 21:41 (Ref:690569)
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Some advice from the experts please.
This weekend I've spent some quality time with my new digital camera. It's a fairly basic 2 million pixel Samsung with a 3x optical zoom. My knowledge and history of taking photos is limited to say the least. I suspect this is why most of the photos I took of moving things today at Thruxton didn't come out so well. The following are examples of the better photos (there were many far worse even than these in the batch!) that I took today. I'd appreciate a little help from those of you that know what to do with these things, so that I can have pictures a little closer to the quality I've seen on this board. So here are the pics (please don't laugh!). These two are from the British GT race:
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17 Aug 2003, 21:43 (Ref:690571)
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This one is from the superb Mini race:
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17 Aug 2003, 21:44 (Ref:690573)
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This one is of some gorgeous TVR Tuscans:
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17 Aug 2003, 21:45 (Ref:690574)
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And this one is fromt the Seat Cup:
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17 Aug 2003, 21:48 (Ref:690578)
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And finally, a display that I can at least get things moving slowly in focus. This is Nelson Piquet Junior having just spun out during the first British F3 race. So guys, any thoughts?
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17 Aug 2003, 22:16 (Ref:690603)
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Advice: the camera you have is NOT suited to motorsport IMHO
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17 Aug 2003, 22:34 (Ref:690611)
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Have to agree with Kelvin, the camera you have is the digi equialent of a fun/snappy camera?? The problem is although it has 3x optical zoom, the effective focal range appears to be quite small so objects will be small.
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17 Aug 2003, 23:45 (Ref:690658)
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You haven't done too badly with what you've got. The pictures above at exposed okay, there isn't tons of camera shake and you've captured interesting points in the races. My attempts in the early Nineties were unutterably poor, being mostly single cars going past and looking slow and boring.
However, the camera isn't suited to on-track action. As Jason says, get into the paddock and shoot up close, trying different angles and (if your camera has the option) different apertures, and see what you come up with. Maybe get up close and shoot driver portraits as they are getting ready for the race, or chatting amongst themselves. Don't forget to post some samples on here. 
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18 Aug 2003, 07:02 (Ref:690801)
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Thanks guys, I suspected as much. I guess I'll have to persevere, it was an expensive snappy camera at £150!
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18 Aug 2003, 11:51 (Ref:691065)
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I have to agree with the other guys - I think you've done a pretty good job with the equipment you've got Damon. You might even find that you've got enough pixels to crop some of these (such as the mini shot) and still get reasonable quality.
One thing I would say though is that when you take full-length shots of people - always remember the feet! This is something I've been frequently guilty of and have to consciously remind myself of. |
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18 Aug 2003, 12:32 (Ref:691103)
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As I've said before look at the camera's abilities not it's pricetag. Don't expect a £150 digital to be the same as a £150 film camera.
Paddock and driver pics seem to be your only options. |
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18 Aug 2003, 19:43 (Ref:691571)
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Neil is correct about portraits - either show the whole body, or the upper torso and head. You wouldn't shoot someone's lower 2/3 and cut off the head, so likewise you don't shoot the upper 2/3 and cut off the feet.
If you're getting in tight, always focus on the eyes. You can get away with slightly OOF noses and heads but a typical portrait is nothing without sharp eyes. |
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18 Aug 2003, 23:08 (Ref:691752)
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>>typical portrait is nothing without sharp eyes
example of sharp eyes? (well almost!) :-) http://www.carenthusiast.com/kelvinf...roft_kf_02.jpg http://www.mgcars.org.uk/cambs.mgoc/...verstone23.jpg http://www.mgcars.org.uk/cambs.mgoc/...verstone22.jpg Kelvin |
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19 Aug 2003, 02:25 (Ref:691811)
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My 3 Megapixel Kodak with 3x zoom is mostly for the pits. However I do look for for those places where I can get close to the track. This gets tricky due to shutter lag. These two came out okay even though they only take up about half the image. To get anything interesting I have had to use an SLR with a decent lense.
http://pages.prodigy.net/nealb2/2003images/spring06.jpg http://pages.prodigy.net/nealb2/2003images/spring07.jpg |
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Great shots guys, I think I can live with my camera if it has the potential to take pictures like those.
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Damon, your pictures, limited as they are by the zoom are fine. Nice and sharp - good action.
But, cropping and enlarging aside (if you have enough pixels as Neil says), you really need an SLR for motorsport photography, with a decent zoom lens. Just spend your winnings from last season's TTFL on a nice digital SLR and lenses - only a few thousand..... 
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Good action?
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)But yeah, some good photos - limited by equipment. But the Piquet one is nice I do actually really like the Ferrari as wellBtw, just noticed your title - I'm no expert (though I'm good at crashes!!! lol!!) 
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This probably sounds very silly but is an "SLR"?
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Single Lens Reflex.
(Not a Mercedes...... )
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SLR. Single lens reflex, a camera that has interchangable lenses
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These
http://www.tkracing.co.uk/bran15thjunindex2.htm were taken with a Nikon digital with 70-300mm zoom from quite a distance. Picture quality is down so I could get them on the web, I also get reasonable results with my Canon sureshot but have to get a lot closer and it takes a bit of practice getting used to the shutter delay Last edited by Tim Falce; 20 Aug 2003 at 13:17. |
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