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Old 25 Nov 2003, 18:06 (Ref:794299)   #1
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The testing thread

I'm starting this thread to avoid the usual suspects coming in with their "its only testing" and "testing is meaningless" comments.

Today saw a pretty good debut for Fisi on the Sauber, having completed 98 laps at Montmelo. Massa was also there, and had the second fastest time, but he was driving a Ferrari. The BARS were slow and unreliable (surprise surprise)

The Williams went 1-2-3 in Valencia, with the new McLaren (driven by Coulthard - 8th) also looking pretty good. Lets hope it passes the crash test
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 18:15 (Ref:794305)   #2
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It is great to have them back on track
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 18:34 (Ref:794316)   #3
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Barcelona - midday results

1. L. Badoer Ferrari 1'17"798 42 laps
2. F. Massa Ferrari 1'18"185 45 laps
3. T. Sato BAR-Honda 1'19"074 33 laps
4. L. Burti Ferrari 1'19"192 38 laps
5. G. Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1'19"743 37 laps
6. J. Button BAR-Honda no time 2 laps

Schumi did pole this year 1:17.762 so quite good for Ferrari
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 21:21 (Ref:794425)   #4
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So Williams have allowed Montoya to drive their car! However it seems to have put him off

Here are the Michelin times:
Valencia - 25/11/03

1. J.P. Montoya Williams 1.10.081 69 laps
2. R. Schumacher Williams 1.10.718 37 laps
3. M. Gene Williams 1.11.224 56 laps
4. A. Wurz McLaren 1.11.299 53 laps
5. F. Montagny Renault 1.11.823 84 laps
6. M. Webber Jaguar 1.11.876 37 laps
7. J. Trulli Renault 1.11.950 89 laps
8. C. Klien Jaguar 1.11.955 84 laps
9. D. Coulthard McLaren 1.12.035 47 laps
10. T. Bell Jaguar 1.12.330 63 laps
11. R. Briscoe Toyota 1.12.660 71 laps

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 08:12 (Ref:794758)   #5
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So Williams have allowed Montoya to drive their car!...
Question is, will he ever get to drive the new one?
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 08:35 (Ref:794766)   #6
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 08:54 (Ref:794780)   #7
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when they release it . otherwise to the old one monty

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 08:58 (Ref:794781)   #8
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I think he will do 2004 for them, but what I meant was, if there remains any chance that he'll be let go to McLaren before Melbourne they may decide that he doesn't get to test the FW26 early next year.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:25 (Ref:795121)   #9
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All this speculation about what JPM will and won't get to do seems silly. Williams has to believe they have a better shot at success if both drivers have a good shot to win. Hanicaping one driver would not accomplish this.

When will BAR get those hydrolics right!?!
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:37 (Ref:795137)   #10
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No way will Williams handicap one driver! Not what I said or meant. Either he is driving or he is not - if not, they won't want to include him on FW26 secrets pre-season.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 17:44 (Ref:795277)   #11
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McLaren have managed a decent-ish number of laps with new car - so it looks like they may have solved the reliability issues. Nearly 50 yesterday for DC and over 50 today (although Valencia is a very short lap).
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 17:54 (Ref:795284)   #12
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When will BAR get those hydrolics right!?!
They seemed to have sorted it out today - Button in the 'concept' BAR only 0.149s slower than Badoer, and completing the most laps.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:48 (Ref:795336)   #13
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Valencia day 2:

Valencia testing day 2 (unofficial)
Pos Driver Chassis-engine Tyres Time Laps
1Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW M 1m10.322s 82
2 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW M 1m10.341s 66
3 Jarno Trulli Renault M 1m10.421s 66
4 Alexander Wurz McLaren-Mercedes M 1m10.761s 93
5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes* M 1m11.069s 59
6 Franck Montagny Renault M 1m11.211s 69
7 Mark Webber Jaguar M 1m11.267s 104
8 Marc Gene Williams-BMW M 1m11.747s 20
9 Christian Klien Jaguar M 1m11.929s 86
10 Ryan Briscoe Toyota M 1m12.002s 71
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 21:17 (Ref:795482)   #14
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Button and the "concept" car were very quick today. To bad we never know how much fuel or what kind of set up they are using in testing. Its tough to decipher some times.
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Old 27 Nov 2003, 10:06 (Ref:795884)   #15
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BAR are in the odd situation of testing with the Bridgestone teams, on Michelin tyres! I wasn't sure at first if they would be, but the pictures seem to be Michelins. The concept BAR is going remarkably well considering that it is on a totally different tyre.
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Yeah, but they have a chance to compare directly the Michelin and Bridgestone tyres. Well, more or less directly. That's a pretty unique situation.

Mind you, Minardi got the chance with Avon last year...
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New lap record for Coulthard in the MP4-19: 1'10"021 ahead of Montoya!
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Old 27 Nov 2003, 19:05 (Ref:796329)   #18
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Nick Heidfeld is going to test for Jordan next week in Jerez.
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Good to see Justin Wilson nice and quick in the Jag at Valencia - all that after 130 laps!

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