HSCC Cadwell Park - The Mountain

PaulSands · 19 Apr 2004, 08:04 (Ref:943833)

With next weekend's HSCC meeting at Cadwell Park just around the corner can anybody tell me whether any of the historic cars that race there ever catch any "air" as they crest the mountain?
I'm planning my photo spots and would love a few evocative "yumping" shot's if they are likely.

johngee · 19 Apr 2004, 09:15 (Ref:943886)

Can't guarantee it but I've certainly seen it happen. Good spot for photos anyway. Hope you enjoy the meeting.

zefarelly · 19 Apr 2004, 10:57 (Ref:943960)

I was wondering whether its the full ciscuit or club . . . .I think its full, so I cant wait, not sure about getting air, possible I guess

dogsbody · 19 Apr 2004, 18:24 (Ref:944525)

We Marshals are looking forward to seeing you all especially as this is our first meeting at Cadwell this year. Here's hoping for a safe day with plenty of good racing.

Riley Imp · 19 Apr 2004, 19:39 (Ref:944607)

There was a story going round, which I hope was an April fool's joke, that a chicane had been introduced upstream of the entry to the Mountain. If so, then there will be no way in which speeds up the hill will be sufficient to allow lift off. Can someone reassure me that another outbreak of madness has not overcome common sense ?
Chris.

flagwaver · 19 Apr 2004, 19:58 (Ref:944624)

Yes there is a new chicane but it is for bikes, mind you they have taken the banking back at hall bends.

Andrew Kitson · 20 Apr 2004, 10:42 (Ref:945254)

Paul, the classic F3 boys should certainly get airborn - they always used to in the old days of contemporary F3 at the circuit.
Check out this old thread showing a painting I did of Piquet winning there back in '78, airborn as was the norm. This was hanging in the circuit bar for years but is now - I am told - displayed in the reception area to the circuit offices.
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...242#post329242
I might get up there myself Sunday, not sure yet. If I do, I will have to check out my old picture which I have not seen for at least 10 years. Hope for a glorious sunny Cadwell day?

PaulSands · 20 Apr 2004, 10:43 (Ref:945256)

I was there when Piquet won...I bet you were too

Andrew Kitson · 20 Apr 2004, 10:59 (Ref:945276)

Yes I was there Paul, got soaked in the rain before the F3 race! If you remember, Tiff was second in the Unipart March.
Other things I remember about that day, being 'gofer' at Royale, was our Kenny Acheson car being protested after practice - again by Van Diemen - and later found to be legal, as the works ex-Van Rooyen Minister engines always were. I remember Pat Symonds the designer and me having to push the car to the scrute bay for engine sealing, then having to rush off to find Kenny and mechanic Paul Thompson to tell them. They were not happy and even less so after the race as David McClelland had Kenny off at the hairpin on the last lap!
It was a very quiet drive home in the truck with I recall the world cup final football commentary on the radio - Holland vs West Germany. Not being the greatest football fan I can't remember who won that, but Kenny did manage to win three FF titles in '78!

PaulSands · 20 Apr 2004, 11:12 (Ref:945294)

Kenny was always a favourite of mine...he had a little Howitt sponsorship next year in F3

Andrew Kitson · 20 Apr 2004, 14:29 (Ref:945563)

Does anyone have the timetable for the HSCC meeting?

johngee · 21 Apr 2004, 09:39 (Ref:946457)

Andrew
Send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll send you a timetable.

zefarelly · 21 Apr 2004, 11:33 (Ref:946560)

Ohn . . you have a PM about Cadwell . . .it'll be our first visit there air or no air I cant wait.

zefarelly · 21 Apr 2004, 11:33 (Ref:946561)

Ohn . . you have a PM about Cadwell . . .it'll be our first visit there, air or no air I cant wait.

PaulSands · 21 Apr 2004, 18:04 (Ref:946935)

Here's the timetable I got from the HSCC

All races to be held over 15 minutes

Jag XK's Qual 9.00 Race 13:15
Formula Junior Qual 9.25 Race 13.45
Historic Road Sports Qual 9.50 Race 14.15
70's Road Sports Qual 10.15 Race 14.45
Formula Ford Qual 10.40 Race 15.15
Historic Racing Saloons Qual 11.05 Race 15.45
Classic Racing Cars Qual 11.30 Race 16.15
Classic Sports Cars Qual 11.55 Race 16.45
Classic F3 Qual 12.20 Race 17.15

HiRich · 23 Apr 2004, 11:18 (Ref:948831)

Paul.
From practical experience, I can tell you that 300bhp/ton and a heavy right foot are perfectly adequate to get air! You may not get 'Flugplatz' style leaps, but you will see many cars of full rebound, and tyre smoke off rear wheels scrabbling for grip.
Take a browse for both 'side-ons' at the crest and 'rear 3/4's', which will show the 'twitch'

simon drabble · 23 Apr 2004, 13:35 (Ref:949029)

good luck everyone competing at Cadwell on sunday - have fun!

Andrew Kitson · 23 Apr 2004, 15:42 (Ref:949148)

Ah yes - the 'twitch'. It was this that caught out Senna in F3 in '83, putting him in the fence in practice with enough damage to make him miss the race..

PaulSands · 25 Apr 2004, 21:16 (Ref:951449)

Tha air up there

PaulSands · 25 Apr 2004, 21:17 (Ref:951451)

zefarelly · 26 Apr 2004, 09:03 (Ref:951942)

no air for me . . .just a slight rise in revs.

but what an awesome circuit, very hard work, I'm not sure I got one lap right all the way round, in fact I'm pretty sure I didnt !

ours, and three of the first 6 races got red flagged, some people just wont respect the track, their competitors, and certainly no their own cars !!!

zefarelly · 26 Apr 2004, 09:07 (Ref:951944)

first lap after the re start . . . before I went cross country !

PaulSands · 26 Apr 2004, 09:14 (Ref:951948)

There were a couple of practice sessions red flagged too.
Better safe than sorry, especially on such a narrow circuit.
I keep mising you zef both on track and off...I will make it a mission to get the mother of all shot's of you

PaulSands · 26 Apr 2004, 09:20 (Ref:951954)

Here's a different way to approach the mountain.
Three wheeled in an XK

PaulSands · 26 Apr 2004, 09:21 (Ref:951956)

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