Larko's SBR upgrade

Rowdy · 2 Jul 2005, 04:37 (Ref:1345174)

Don't know if it has been mentioned but Bargs now has a current spec SBR engine as opposed to the 2003 spec they have been using (and still in #20) Had problems with it in practice with lack of top end but has to be a step forward to seeing last years results again.
ps. Great job in qual frosty.

peckstar · 2 Jul 2005, 04:42 (Ref:1345175)

top job by frosty. finally it seems orrcon racing are back to last years form, at least i hope.

Frosty was very competitive heer last year also

James63 · 2 Jul 2005, 04:51 (Ref:1345177)

Important thing to note is Frosty has a new engineer working with him this weekend, and thus far seems to be working quite well. The new engineer is from DJR I think, can't remember his name.

retro · 2 Jul 2005, 04:58 (Ref:1345179)

Frosty could,given good results this weekend, seal a deal with SBR???

peckstar · 2 Jul 2005, 05:22 (Ref:1345181)

yes but 31st in the championship, might not be enough

retro · 2 Jul 2005, 05:24 (Ref:1345182)

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Originally Posted by retro

Frosty could,given good results this weekend, seal a deal with SBR???

Frosty just said (on BigPond) that he is out of contract at years end and has as yet not spoken to Larko or the Stones for that matter about next year.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2005, 05:33 (Ref:1345185)

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Originally Posted by James63

Important thing to note is Frosty has a new engineer working with him this weekend, and thus far seems to be working quite well. The new engineer is from DJR I think, can't remember his name.

Mr Wheeler is working on Bargs' car.. not Mr Winterbottom's...

Still a very good effort in the old sardine can

James63 · 2 Jul 2005, 07:57 (Ref:1345237)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Mr Wheeler is working on Bargs' car.. not Mr Winterbottom's...

Still a very good effort in the old sardine can

Well on Bigpond during qualifying Crompton stated wheeler was working on Frosty's car, and again it was said when interviewing frosty himself.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2005, 08:40 (Ref:1345262)

Very strange... either way, the Orrcon cars will do better with Mr Wheeler aboard, who should be able to assist to identify and sort some long standing chassis issues.

No news on the new chassis then?

James63 · 2 Jul 2005, 09:10 (Ref:1345288)

Not that I heard. Didn't hear anything about car #20 getting a new spec motor either.

Which car did Wheeler work on at DJR?

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2005, 09:23 (Ref:1345293)

Mr Wheeler was Technical Director at DJR, in charge of chassis design and manufacture...

TSR · 2 Jul 2005, 09:32 (Ref:1345299)

Is the LMS motor the same spec as the T888 motor, or does Larko have a special deal with SBR. If not does that mean the there are 6 same spec SBR at Hidden Valley this weekend.???.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2005, 09:36 (Ref:1345302)

It was reported during the broadcast that Bargs has an '05-spec engine, while Frosty had the '04-spec...

TSR · 2 Jul 2005, 09:37 (Ref:1345303)

Thanks GTR, but what spec's are the t888 motors?????????????????

James63 · 2 Jul 2005, 09:45 (Ref:1345305)

#1, #9, #888 and #88 rotate their motors between the cars. So they are all the same.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2005, 09:50 (Ref:1345307)

As will #5 and #6 in 2006

Just Do It! · 2 Jul 2005, 10:34 (Ref:1345320)

I reckon that the Larko package has been enhanced considerably by Wheeler and with the SBR engine updates.

It certainly puts the team in good stead for the future and should make all the sponsors happy too.

Word has gone quiet on the Larko sale/equity partner though and it was announced back at Easter time. Bargs was coy on The Panelbeaters on Friday too.

All very interesting..... Of course, it seems that Team Riva is a Holden team platform

TSR · 2 Jul 2005, 10:40 (Ref:1345322)

Come on GTR do know more than you are letting on with, as Pauline would say PLEASE EXPLAIN. So you reckon or know that FPR will be SBR donk bound in 06 hey??

James63 · 2 Jul 2005, 11:07 (Ref:1345334)

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Originally Posted by TSR

Come on GTR do know more than you are letting on with, as Pauline would say PLEASE EXPLAIN. So you reckon or know that FPR will be SBR donk bound in 06 hey??

At long last!!

WebberForWDC · 2 Jul 2005, 12:14 (Ref:1345385)

An incredible effort from Winterbottom in qualifying.

Who is DJR's technical director now? Is it someone who can get them up the front sometime soon?

FPRXR-6 · 2 Jul 2005, 15:29 (Ref:1345467)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

As will #5 and #6 in 2006

Why would FPR get SBR engines after spending millions on engine development?

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2005, 23:28 (Ref:1345643)

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Originally Posted by FPRXR-6

Why would FPR get SBR engines after spending millions on engine development?

Because despite the millions spent, they are still not as reliable/fast as an SBR powerplant......

Ford Motorsport will be the decision maker here, supposedly the 3 teams they support to the hilt will get the premium engines in 2006.... I still reckon Ford should encourage all its supported teams to source their engines from SBR.. to build up the infrastructure, and have the whole Ford side running the same engine.

This would do 2 things... drive cost efficiencies by one powerplant across many teams so therefore one development program not 10, and also would make the parity situation a lot easier as the Fords would all be the same engine-wise.

Here's hoping this is the end game...

peckstar · 3 Jul 2005, 00:24 (Ref:1345659)

WHY not just Get SBR to build engines for every team, this would help the parity site, and also double as a cost saver, because less resources would have to be put into engine development. Im kidding. what a stupid idea

retro · 3 Jul 2005, 04:26 (Ref:1345714)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

It was reported during the broadcast that Bargs has an '05-spec engine, while Frosty had the '04-spec...

Bargs said 03 spec on the panelbeaters.

**GTRMagic** · 3 Jul 2005, 04:50 (Ref:1345722)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

WHY not just Get SBR to build engines for every team, this would help the parity site, and also double as a cost saver, because less resources would have to be put into engine development. Im kidding. what a stupid idea

What's so stupid about it? NASCAR teams share engine development/build costs, why not Supercar?

HMS was trying something like that originally, with the supply of Chevs to customer teams... till that "Symbol" purple haze descended anyway

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