Electrics

carrera · 14 Dec 2005, 15:09 (Ref:1483963)

Anyone know of a vehicle electrician in the south-east to wire a saloon car. Or perhaps someone can recommend an idiot's guide to vehicle wiring.

phoenix · 14 Dec 2005, 15:55 (Ref:1483997)

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Originally Posted by carrera

Anyone know of a vehicle electrician in the south-east to wire a saloon car. Or perhaps someone can recommend an idiot's guide to vehicle wiring.

I'm willing to 'hold your hand' - I live in Edenbridge which is not far away

carrera · 14 Dec 2005, 19:54 (Ref:1484177)

PM for phoenix.

**Tim Falce** · 14 Dec 2005, 20:06 (Ref:1484188)

Are you doing it from scratch or using the original loom, is it for the Citroen? You can buy ready made looms complete with instructions. It isn't that difficult, just time consuming and you need to be sober when you do it.

carrera · 15 Dec 2005, 20:46 (Ref:1484971)

For the Cit. Looking to start from scratch as we have moved a few bits and pieces and the coloured spaghetti (mainly green) is in the wrong place now.

Al Weyman · 15 Dec 2005, 22:25 (Ref:1485027)

The guy who did my black car specialises in race stuff if you can't get sorted I can find his number tomorrow, he comes highly recommended.

MIdsm · 16 Dec 2005, 23:58 (Ref:1485585)

I would say to use tefzel wire (aerocraft spec) if possible. I'm not certain if you intend to use any oem parts (fuse and relay blocks) but if you don't I would say to make your own using either automotive (cheaper) or aircraft grade fuses/circuit breakers. Aircraft circuit breakers can be located inexpensivelly on eBay and they usually have screw down terminals. Label all lines as it will save many headaches. Make a circuit diagam on paper. Use Deutch or similar connectors as they are water and vibration proof. Use some sort of cable protection - heat shrink or corrugated plastic wrap at minimum. Vibrations can play havock with harnesses. Make a mock up of everything first.

Good luck.

The following links may be helpfull:

http://www.v8914.com/Wiring.htm - just a few shots but the whole site should be visited

http://www.p-r-s.com/catalog.htm

http://www.motec.com/support/wiring.htm

http://www.battsracing.com/deutsch.html

There should be many more examples in U.K.

carrera · 20 Dec 2005, 20:13 (Ref:1487586)

Phoenix has discussed this over a pint so hopefully all will be sorted fairly soon, not forgetting of course there is Xmas, New Year, Autosport etc to get in the way.
We all know it would not be right to finish a car before the first event.

Ntrprise · 3 Jan 2006, 13:56 (Ref:1494117)

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Originally Posted by falcemob

Are you doing it from scratch or using the original loom, is it for the Citroen? You can buy ready made looms complete with instructions. It isn't that difficult, just time consuming and you need to be sober when you do it.

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where to buy ready made looms complete with instructions??

I need to build 1 from scratch..... A little nervous about this as I do not have a clue about electronics. Anyone help out there???

**Tim Falce** · 3 Jan 2006, 14:16 (Ref:1494139)

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Originally Posted by Ntrprise

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where to buy ready made looms complete with instructions??

I need to build 1 from scratch..... A little nervous about this as I do not have a clue about electronics. Anyone help out there???

I made my loom up myself although I only had about 4 or 5 different colours of wire and had to use marker tabs on each end of some wires. It now gets a bit confusing when I have sort any wiring problems out.
It wasn't hard to do, I just used a wiring diagram from a kit car manufacturer and one from a Jaguar manual for the rev counter etc. The most complicated bit is the dash loom but as long as you keep it in seperate sections it isn't too bad.
My team mate, (dtype38) bought a ready made loom that he just cut to the lengths he wanted and put the terminals on where he needed them. The trouble is that the company he used doesn't seem to make them to order anymore.

norman-normal · 3 Jan 2006, 20:17 (Ref:1494345)

I owned a shop for a lot of years, if you only knew how difficult and expensive it is to straighten out something a person with little knowlege has tried to re-engineer, you would leve it alone. But then thats how most mechanics get started.

GOOD LUCK.

Al Weyman · 3 Jan 2006, 20:36 (Ref:1494355)

If you are in doubt it is worth paying to have it done correctly. If you look at my cars the yellow one I did myself years ago and is sort of OK but the black car I got a professional guy recommended by a racer friend who built the car who came round to the house (he is mobile) and is a proper job. Yes cost a couple of hundred or so extra I guess (10 years ago) but worth it in my opinion. I will get him back to rewire my latest project when it is at that stage.