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Old 9 Oct 2006, 18:05 (Ref:1733244)   #1
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Worst grand prix driver ever 1906 onwards

Who do you think the worst grand prix driver is ever please post your replys to this thread.
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Old 9 Oct 2006, 18:14 (Ref:1733257)   #2
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
You mean I can't have Felice Nazzarro!!!
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Old 9 Oct 2006, 18:18 (Ref:1733259)   #3
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Old 9 Oct 2006, 20:07 (Ref:1733341)   #4
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Worst ? What do you mean by worst ?
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Old 9 Oct 2006, 21:37 (Ref:1733408)   #5
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Ottorino Volonterio - 25% slower than the field - and Otto Stuppacher (never qualified, generally 30% slower) have to be up there as the ultimate in slow drivers.

There was one chap at the Belgrade GP in 1939 called Bosko Milenkovic, who raced an aged Bugatti T51 and came 4th. Out of 5 starters (one of which retired). 19 laps off the lead. In a 50 lap race.
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Old 9 Oct 2006, 21:43 (Ref:1733412)   #6
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There we go...I think ensign's conclusively answered that one!
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 03:42 (Ref:1733597)   #7
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Chatters should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridChatters should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Al Pease. Finished 43 laps down in a 90 lap race, then black flagged because he was too slow!
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 08:03 (Ref:1733698)   #8
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There was a good reason for Pease to be 43 laps down...he lost 6 laps at the start because of a faulty battery and it conked later in the race, so he had to run back to the pits to replace it. (He was actually black-flagged in his second GP but that was more for wild driving, he nerfed Silvio Moser out and hit Beltoise as the latter was lapping him. In neither GP did Pease qualify last.)
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 08:20 (Ref:1733729)   #9
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Hans Heyer,started the race(his only F1) illegally out of the pits and broke down before he got black flagged.
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 08:55 (Ref:1733759)   #10
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But he wasn't the worst ever, surely? 2.5 seconds slower than his team-mate, admittedly, but there have been others a LOT slower in comparison (e.g. Giovanna Amati, Ricardo Zunino) - and despite having nearly zero single seater races he outqualified Emerson Fittipaldi. For "worst ever" we have to go to a very special level of ineptitude.
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 11:00 (Ref:1733874)   #11
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obviously being quite young i haven't had the privelidge of seeing many of the auful driver you note but from recent times Alex Yoonge in the Minardi and obviously Ide in the Super Aguri.

The worst person i've ever seen driving an F1 car (although not in an F1 race) was Juli Lyons driving a Surtees (sponsored by Rizzla and Penthouse) at the silverstone classic, 30 seconds of the pace round silverstone (with the second chicane removed) and battling to stay on the rear of a FF2000.
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 12:39 (Ref:1734006)   #12
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For starters I would say it's hard to think of a "worst driver" when one are brave enough to get to drive an F1 car and actually try to compete with it in a professional manner.
The ideal title would be "Less successful Grand Prix Driver" then. It's always good to avoid hurting feelings of someone we don't know...
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 13:00 (Ref:1734036)   #13
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Yes, that's right Bon, because I know for a fact my good pals Jean-Denis Deletraz and Ricardo Rosset read these forums every day, to see if they can get any positive feedback on their respective careers...
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 13:39 (Ref:1734079)   #14
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The worst I've seen were definently Deletraz and Hideki Noda. I think they both drove for Larrouse in '94? I recall seeing Deletraz being lapped numorous times and generally getting in the way at the 1994 Australian GP.
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 14:01 (Ref:1734106)   #15
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Yes, that's right Bon, because I know for a fact my good pals Jean-Denis Deletraz and Ricardo Rosset read these forums every day, to see if they can get any positive feedback on their respective careers...
I'm not sure they would read, but if I could tell, you would be amazed who read this forum in a daily basis...
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 15:23 (Ref:1734186)   #16
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Just thank god Arnold Glass never managed to get into a Grand Prix. He was known to hold up Formula Fords around Oulton Park in his F1 McLaren!
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 16:15 (Ref:1734227)   #17
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Yes, that's right Bon, because I know for a fact my good pals Jean-Denis Deletraz and Ricardo Rosset read these forums every day, to see if they can get any positive feedback on their respective careers...
Deletraz might even get. He races in FIA GT in an Aston Martin and isn't very slow.
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Deletraz and Yoong have gone on to redeem themselves in other Formulae.

Of the '95 squad, surely Taki Inoue's more of a runner?

Anyway, no one I've seen I could call the worst F1 driver since 1906...I simply haven't seen that many races!
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The Japanese certainly have had a few drivers who could lay claim to this title. But it's worth remembering that the last guy on the grid is still a great driver, just not as great as those in front of him.
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 20:34 (Ref:1734500)   #21
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But it's worth remembering that the last guy on the grid is still a great driver, just not as great as those in front of him.
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What I've been saying since the start of the thread...
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Doesn't mean that there wasn't a worst, though...
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Old 10 Oct 2006, 20:59 (Ref:1734527)   #24
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Thank You all for posting your replys and i think the worst ever grand prix driver is Yuji Ide he lost his super licence.
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Thank You all for posting your replys and i think the worst ever grand prix driver is Yuji Ide he lost his super licence.
An issue with using the removal of a super licence as justification for deciding on the worst driver is that it is a relatively recent introduction (compared to 1906 anyway), so there could be drivers who have raced before its introduction, who would have lost their licences had that option been available. Whilst it is difficult to comprehensively state the best driver in Grand Prix history due to differing contexts, I'd argue that reaching any sense of consesus regarding the worst driver is likely to be equally difficult.
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