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14 Nov 2011, 04:07 (Ref:2985999) | #1 | |
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The top 3
Whilst it appears that 888 racing and Jamie Whincup are in a league of their own in 2011, there will always be V8 Supercar fans who believe that Whincup is on top because he has the best of everything under and around him.
Both this year and in previous years there has without doubt been talented drivers who may or may not have had the equipment to do their results justice. Drivers have been underrated, overrated, hopeless or excelled in the wet, choked under pressure, not had the equipment or just been unlucky. So as it appears that the cars are more evenly matched post Group C, who are your top 3 drivers post Group C. |
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Ambrose, Grice and Jim Richards - in no particular order
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18 Nov 2011, 14:49 (Ref:2988267) | #3 | |
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+1 for Grice
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18 Nov 2011, 20:50 (Ref:2988468) | #4 | |
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really Alan Grice Post group C? I can understand in Group C, but not Post
Reckon murph shows him a clean pair of heels and murph wouldnt make it close to my top 5 Anyway Skaife, by far has to make it. He would be the only definite as he has been winning races for almost all of the post group C era. I put lowndes in multiple championship winner and multiple bathurst winner over a big chunk of that period. third is hard. Seton Johnson Jim Richards Whincup Ambrose Bowe, its hard to choose |
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18 Nov 2011, 23:30 (Ref:2988538) | #5 | |
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In no particular order........Jum, Skaife, Lowndes, Ambrose, Whinky.......top 3, it's up to individual preference.
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18 Nov 2011, 23:35 (Ref:2988543) | #6 | |
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Difficult enough to just pick 3 never mind in order, so Skaife, Ambrose and Lowndes for me.
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I think you could put together a top 10 list with no arguments. However the second you try to put them in order the fights will start.
With 3 Bathursts and soon to be 3 championships, I would think Whincup would be deserving of a top 5 spot... My top 3 in no particular order. Jim Richards Mark Skaife Marcos Ambrose |
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nah i understand that, but Rick Kelly has two bathurst wins also, plus a championship, Cant see him making anyones top 3 and on paper has a significantly better record than Grice
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Look at the way Kelly won those races and championships compared to Grice and then you have your answer
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20 Nov 2011, 10:25 (Ref:2989123) | #12 | |
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not going to argue that point, thats why i used the term "on paper"
i just cant eben go close to including him post group C, he just didnt race enough and he didnt really get the results either heck tony longhurst has two bathurst wins in that time frame and and super touring championship, but i dont get him into my top ten still its about peoples opinions, and thats there choice |
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LMAO Pecky the more i read the more it looks as if you are the v8PR machine!!!!!! Grice had HALF the championship starts of Rick Kelly but won as many races as RK has now PLUS Kelly was in factory supported car most of his career but Grice wasnt. If you count Grice's Bathurst wins he has more race and round wins than Kelly in HALF the starts!!!! OH Aand Kellys championship was won WITHOUT WINNING ANYTHING!
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You don't think K-Mart and HSV weren't factory??!!!! Kidding right??? Aside from a few years Grice was pure privateer and his championship racing record is far better than Kellys
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has Grice won a championship? what about this, how many top 5's has he had in the post group C era?
and no, they were owned by ricks parents, yes they had factory support, but they were not the "A" team like when Grice was with HRT Last edited by peckstar; 23 Nov 2011 at 10:11. |
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the problem is, Paul won races and championships.
Wouldnt make my top fifty, but there are many who would be lower |
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