Lister Hybrid

JAG · 19 Jul 2005, 18:12 (Ref:1358761)

Anyone seen the sneek pics of the new Lister on DSC.

There isn't a full picture of the car but it does appear to have some kind of raised front wing set-up.

The unraced 1993 905 EVO III is probably the car that looks the most similar (from these pictures at least)

tblincoe · 19 Jul 2005, 19:05 (Ref:1358784)

it was dissapointing that DSC was there and did not release a full-body shot... the front of the car does look to have a totally different look about it, with some sort of raised front incorporating the already unique design elements of the Lister LMP.

what was interesting to me was that the car had air induction inlets for the engine both above the driver as on the original car, and in the now common area for hybrids in the "passenger" headrest. i wonder whats going on there... (maybe the bodywork for the driver headrest wasn't completed at the time of the pictures?)

Graham Goodwin · 19 Jul 2005, 19:12 (Ref:1358789)

That would be bacause Lister didn't want one released just yet. Plenty of clues as to the overall look though

tblincoe · 19 Jul 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1358797)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

That would be bacause Lister didn't want one released just yet. Plenty of clues as to the overall look though

that's what I figured... thanks a bunch to DSC and Lister for letting us get a sneak-peak either way.

after looking further at the pictures we have, there are further clues I have noticed that do indeed give a general idea of what the car will look like. one such clue is the vertical strake down the center of the front of the car (to what i'm guessing is a raised nose surrounding the foot-box), as well as the extension of the bodywork to the sides of the rear pontoon fenders.

very interesting approach from Lister; who would have thought they could have created a car even more radical than the original Lister LMP??

MulsanneMike · 19 Jul 2005, 23:18 (Ref:1358926)

Can't see anything here. DSC is showing news only to July 3...hardware issues?

Graham Goodwin · 19 Jul 2005, 23:30 (Ref:1358930)

Glitch Mike - should be back up in a few hours

jross427 · 20 Jul 2005, 01:54 (Ref:1358995)

pictures, links, anything?

XJR14/WSC95 · 20 Jul 2005, 01:57 (Ref:1358996)

Off topic, this is first time I have seen an actual photo of the 1993 905 EVO III. JAG do you know of were I can view other images of these car on the net.

BSchneiderFan · 20 Jul 2005, 10:20 (Ref:1359161)

And why was it never raced?

panoz.lmp1 · 20 Jul 2005, 10:48 (Ref:1359178)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

And why was it never raced?

There are no races for this car ;-(

TheNewBob · 20 Jul 2005, 10:53 (Ref:1359182)

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Originally Posted by panoz.lmp1

There are no races for this car ;-(

Does that mean the class of racing went bust before they got a chance to run it?

panoz.lmp1 · 20 Jul 2005, 11:04 (Ref:1359193)

In 1993 was no Group C World Championship and at Le Mans Peugot runs the 905B

lj79 · 20 Jul 2005, 14:50 (Ref:1359388)

IIRC this car was tested in 92, or was this an updated EVO2 that tested in 92?

MulsanneMike · 20 Jul 2005, 15:43 (Ref:1359425)

The Evo 2, the car in the image above (it wasn't called the EVO III) was tested at Magny Cours in '92 (check the entry list for Magny that year, the cars are listed as spares--beleive they practiced but they didn't race). So very little is actually known about the car, it is quite a shame as it is very interesting.

BSchneiderFan · 20 Jul 2005, 15:48 (Ref:1359430)

On a side note, why don't you see faired-in wheels any more? Have they been banned? they used to be quite common on Group C cars.

Fogelhund · 20 Jul 2005, 16:13 (Ref:1359453)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

On a side note, why don't you see faired-in wheels any more? Have they been banned? they used to be quite common on Group C cars.

Those were used pre-chicane days. They aren't as useful anymore, and slow down pitstops.

MulsanneMike · 20 Jul 2005, 16:45 (Ref:1359479)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

On a side note, why don't you see faired-in wheels any more? Have they been banned? they used to be quite common on Group C cars.

Regulations ban them. Evil wheel covers...

JAG · 20 Jul 2005, 16:47 (Ref:1359482)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Those were used pre-chicane days. They aren't as useful anymore, and slow down pitstops.

Chicanes were already up by then.

The 905B didn't have the enclosed wheels but this unraced car did.

Theres details about the car in the 1992 World Sportscar Racing annual.

It was apparently much lighter than the 905B and produced more downforce.

BTW, why do we not see front wings like these any longer, are they banned?

Lister appears to have gone the furthest with regads to a front wing type set-up. Surley a high downforce set-up is a bigger priority than low drag these days.

MulsanneMike · 20 Jul 2005, 20:56 (Ref:1359642)

Getting back to the subject at hand (Lister Hybrid) finally had a look a the images over at DSC(its back on line). The front "wing" is more a front suspension cover ala Bentley LMGTP. Wings are highly regulated, at least the traditional ones (official definition being something along the lines of two non parallal arcs that meet at a leading edge and close at a trailing edge--its in the rule book which isn't in front of me at the time). Of course the "traditional" wings are pretty efficient as opposed to dive planes (call them non-traditional if you will). Anyhow, it would appear that structure extending from the nose on the Lister to the front fender is meerly a cover similar to what Bentley did with the last LMGTP. Though similar in ideology only, from the rest of the images it appears once again Lister has a very unique and intersting prototype. Can't wait to see the whole thing.

The Badger · 21 Jul 2005, 05:42 (Ref:1359851)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

On a side note, why don't you see faired-in wheels any more? Have they been banned? they used to be quite common on Group C cars.

They looked kinda cool om the jags and Toyotas back then . Not sure about how they might look on the new breed of sportscar though !!!

The Badger · 5 Aug 2005, 13:11 (Ref:1372886)

Has anyone seen any pics of the Lister Hybrid yet ?

ss_collins · 5 Aug 2005, 14:04 (Ref:1372938)

on the lister website

lj79 · 5 Aug 2005, 15:34 (Ref:1373004)

I spoke to Fiona Pearce at Spa last week and she said that it is unlikely we will see the car, in full, until it is unloaded from the transporter at Silverstone LMES. She doubts that the team will have time to paint it up either

**Aysedasi** · 5 Aug 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1373115)

Lazy wotsits.........

TheNewBob · 5 Aug 2005, 20:15 (Ref:1373243)

wotsits... now that wud be an amusing sponsor on the Lister hehe

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