Will Roberts Make A Good Chasis?

Hazza · 16 Feb 2006, 10:32 (Ref:1524161)

Whilest listening to MotoGPod I heard that Roberts will be getting "The same spec engine as Melandri".

So therefore it's just a matter of Can Roberts Make A Better Chassis Than Honda

BootsOntheSide · 16 Feb 2006, 14:22 (Ref:1524354)

Considering the difference in experience, funding, manpower and reputation, I think it surprising that somebody has voted 'yes'.

chunder · 16 Feb 2006, 18:11 (Ref:1524477)

So you also find it surprising that Derbi took on the might of the Japanese and Italians and nearly won a 125 world championship, and the Proton set quickest ever 2 stroke laps.
Both using chassis developed, designed and put together by Roberts!

I think the only weak link there will be development budget and testing and maybe the rider, but in that environment Junior should thrive

Hazza · 16 Feb 2006, 21:37 (Ref:1524601)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

Considering the difference in experience, funding, manpower and reputation, I think it surprising that somebody has voted 'yes'.

My bad.

ASCII Man · 18 Feb 2006, 12:34 (Ref:1525594)

A global car/bike manufacturer against a small private team?
No chance.

2000yellow360 · 5 Mar 2006, 18:02 (Ref:1536806)

If history is a guide, he will. Remember in the 80s when his team dominated. Fact is, they had to modify the Yamaha engines, and at the end, the engines weren't Yamahas. Caused friciton with Yamaha to this day. If you take a look at the time from the last few days, you'll see KRJR is faster than the Hondas. If they have the same engine, why is he faster than Nicky? Could it be the chassis works.

Had dinner with Kurtis at Valencia last year, said the Chassis handled well, but the motor only made 200HP. Now that they've got a little power, wonder where they'll end up. I suspect that KR wants to finish ahead of John Hopkins this year, given the way it ended with Suzuki.

Art

Hazza · 3 Jul 2006, 11:30 (Ref:1647211)

Bump.

Ooops, sorry didn't mean to do that. Man, that Roberts bike is Pants isn't it.

Oh c'mon, am I good, or am I good?

Gerben24 · 4 Jul 2006, 07:31 (Ref:1647760)

It is not just the chassis that is really good. Supposedly the air intake the Roberts bike has, gives the engine a very constant pressure of air supply. It has made the Honda people come round the corner of the pitbox to have a look.

ASCII Man · 4 Jul 2006, 09:29 (Ref:1647853)

Yeah, they certainly surprised me with their performance to date.
Good stuff!

chunder · 4 Jul 2006, 17:45 (Ref:1648208)

Honda are not stupid at all when it comes to things like this. I think they hold some sort of rights to a central intake on 125 bikes dont they? Maybe why no one else uses one. But surely the KTM uses a central intake in 125 and 250!! Might be null and void now!

Remember Honda used to do a similar hting to KR with ELF years ago and Ron Haslam. They provided the motors for the ELF team and let de Cortanze do all sorts of silly things, no dount a lot of those ideas were purchased by HRC and put away in a safe til some day soon!
Kenny aint stupid really, if he has found something, it would also be crazy not to let him use it in 2007.

Intake is different coz it goes through the headstock of the bike rather than round the sides as it does on an RC211V.

DavidStHubbins · 5 Jul 2006, 07:44 (Ref:1648606)

I have no idea about mechanical gubbins and stuff but you were right Hazza. Once they bunged a decent motor on they've been impressive indeed!

What they need now is another rider to accompany Kenny. Junior's a bit past his sell-by date, he has admitted he was ready to sit on the couch this season until his Pa persuaded him otherwise. Maybe they need a 250cc flyer to show what the thing can really do - even if the kid falls off. With consistent Kenny racking up points on the sister bike everybody's a winner!

What about Lorenzo? The Dove? Honda could farm out rookies to KR. The chance to learn from the Roberts family is priceless.

BootsOntheSide · 8 Jul 2006, 12:13 (Ref:1650811)

The chassis is pretty close in performance to the Honda, but they are only really beating Tamada consistantly. Perhaps the problem is the rider - 2007 might answer that question.

chunder · 9 Jul 2006, 17:02 (Ref:1651431)

Obnly beating Tamada, has Makoto got a podium or a front row this year!
I think they are doing very well and Kenny is riding superbly at the moment considering he is pretty much calling time!

I think it would be great to get anotehr rider, but would Kenny really have the patience and the budget to have a crasher on the team, I think Edwards would be a great choice if he isnt snapped up, he is very close to Michelin aswell which is a plus!

Hazza · 22 Jul 2006, 07:32 (Ref:1661990)

Ahem.

If Roberts win, you guys all owe me a gonk!

Dani Filth · 22 Jul 2006, 08:57 (Ref:1662015)

oh no . not gonks again ..

DavidStHubbins · 22 Jul 2006, 11:28 (Ref:1662117)

I still think it would be fascinating to have another KR rider. They need two and I hope they have the money to achieve that next season. They are perfect for Honda to farm a young rider out to. Dovi?

Guessing out of my bottom, they could become Team America and have Roberts Jr and Hayden?

Hazza · 22 Jul 2006, 11:36 (Ref:1662123)

I agree with you on all points but I reckon it will be Roberts and Edwards next year. Unless BMW get Edwards because of his developement skills...

chunder · 22 Jul 2006, 23:21 (Ref:1662368)

Agreed, I think would make a superb rider for Kenny and the Michelin link also works real well coz Colin basically developed the 16.5inch front Michelin i think.
Not sure on the Hinda engine thing though, but i dont think Colin really left Honda in a cloud, just got a better deal at Yamaha.
Am so pleased for Kenny Jr, all the doubting Thomases on here who said he was rubbish!! But he kinda made a prat of himself in germany.

DavidStHubbins · 23 Jul 2006, 08:29 (Ref:1662582)

Kenny was rubbish on the Suzuki after he won the title! Compared to his team mates he was poor. Now he has a good bike again and he is doing well.

chunder · 1 Aug 2006, 20:45 (Ref:1670344)

I dont really think anyone did any good on the Suzuki with Kenny to be honest, the bike was total rot and didnt work on 16.5 inch tyres. And Aoki did sweet bugger all on the bike aswell to be honest!

Yes Sete won a race but he has always been a bit of a rain master and even Kenny did really well in the rain on the old two stroke!

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