Beating a Dead Horse

[macdaddy]

I realize that this topic has been beaten to death.

But, I still think it remains fun.

You are KK, and venues are begging at your feet.
You can only accomodate a 16-event schedule.
Where would you go?

(Finances and crowds aside...)

I've split my list up, to comprise of the "Triple-Crown", short-ovals, streets, airports and roads.

Michigan
Fontana
Lausizring

Phoenix
Milwaukee
Las Vegas

Toronto
Australia
Denver
Detroit

Edmonton
Cleveland

Road America
Laguna Seca
Montreal
Brands Hatch (Full)

[Jordi]

I'd have...

Long Beach, Portland, Laguna Seca, Elkhart Lake, Cleveland, Montreal, Edmonton, Toronto, Michigan, Fontana, Surfers' Paradise, Milwaukee, Lausitzring, Rockingham, Mexico and Denver.

But then again I wouldn't do a 16-race schedule...

[rustyfan]

01. St. Petersburg
02. Homestead
03. Laguna Seca
04. Michigan (500 miler)
05. Sears Point
06. Brands Hatch GP
07. Spa-Francorchamps
08. Milwaukee
09. Pocono (500 miler)
10. Road America
11. Toronto
12. Texas
13. Cleveland
14. Watkins Glen
15. Surfers' Paradise
16. Fontana (500 miler)

1 Airport Circuit
3 Street Circuits
6 Ovals
6 Road Courses

The ideal number of races would be around 20 though, rather than 16.

[Purist]

Ok, I'll take a crack at it.

1. St. Petersburg
2. Long Beach
3. Phoenix
4. Milwaukee
5. Portland
6. Cleveland
7. Toronto
8. Michigan
9. Edmonton
10. Road America
11. Pocono
12. Montreal
13. Laguna Seca
14. Texas World Speedway (long oval)
15. Surfers Paradise
16. Mexico City

5 Ovals
4 Street Circuits
4 Road Courses
2 Airport Circuits
1 Parkland Circuit

I would have a slightly different mix if I had a few more slots available. Given the flexibility of a few more events, I would have likely thrown in a couple more overseas races. Rather than be convoluted about it though, I'll just list off my ultimate schedule.

1. St. Petersburg
2. Long Beach
3. Phoenix
4. Lausitz, Germany
5. Spa-Francorchamps
6. Milwaukee
7. Portland
8. Cleveland
9. Toronto
10. Michigan
11. Edmonton
12. Road America
13. Denver
14. Montreal
15. Laguna Seca
16. Pocono
17. Surfers Paradise
18. Isla Grande Airport
19. Mexico City

I REALLY wish there were a few more oddly configured ovals out there (Brooklands, Grenzlandring, Pocono, Rockingham UK).

Revised Breakdown:
5 Ovals
5 Street Circuits
5 Road Courses
3 Airport Circuits
1 Parkland Circuit

[D70s]

Macdaddy, if you are going to have a triple crown of "airport circuits" you need to include Sebring as the third. I believe it was built on an old airfield.

[Purist]

That is somewhat correct. It was laid out on the airfield, and it is still about half tarmac , with the rest being asphalt. The thing is, what they race on now is a permanent circuit, not like Cleveland, Edmonton, or St. Petersburg.

[macdaddy]

By "Triple Crown", I was referring to a trio of 500-milers.

[Kicking-back]

Too much of a rush to come up with a full list - but the 16 would be 2 Mexico, 2 Canada, 1 Australia, 11 USA.

No Europe or Japan.

[macdaddy]

No Europe...
I'm trying to not consider finances, demographics, TV ect...

Having re-read my list, I realize how daft I was to not include LongBeach.
Brands would have to go to make way for it.
But that certain oval in Germany is a favourite of mine!

[stmookeyj033]

1. Milwaukee (OV)
2. Houston (ST)
3. Long Beach (ST)
4. Indy 500!!!!! (OV) [Well, we can all dream can't we?]
5. Portland (RD)
6. Cleveland (AI)
7. Road America (RD)
8. Toronto (ST)
9. Edmonton (AI)
10. Michigan 500 (OV)
11. Denver (ST)
12. Interlagos, Brazil (RD)
13. Suzuka (RD)
14. Gold Coast (ST)
15. Mexico City (RD)
16. Fontana 500 (OV)

5 ROAD
5 STREET
4 OVAL
2 AIRPORT

If we could have 20, I would add.......
Laguna Seca (RD)
Montreal (RD)
Another Street Course
Another Oval

[Capi11]

Hi

1. St. Petersburg
2. Long Beach
3. Le Mans,France
4. Bilbao,Spain
5. Talladega (500)
6. Milwaukee
7. Portland
8. Cleveland
9. Toronto
10. Michigan (500)
11. Edmonton
12. Road America
13. Denver
14. Montreal
15. Laguna Seca
16. Interlagos
17. Surfers Paradise
18. Fuji
19. Shanghai Street Track
19. Mexico City
20. Fontana (500)

[Pete Fenelon]

There's 16:

Ovals:
Fontana (500)
Michigan (500)
Milwaukee
Vegas (oval)
Lausitz (back-to-back with road race at Donington)

Airports:
Cleveland
Edmonton

Road courses:
Portland
Elkhart Lake
Laguna Seca
Road Atlanta
VIR

International races:
Surfer's Paradise
Mexico City
Donington (+ Lausitz oval)
Interlagos

If we can go for 20:
Denver (S), Montreal (R), Vancouver (S), Houston (S)

I've deliberately not tried to poach Long Beach from IRL - it's going to be their showcase race for a while so they'll hang on to it. I'd rather hold the UK race at Donington than Brands, although in a compeltely ideal world it'd be at Oulton - for the benefit of our transatlantic correspondents, imagine somewhere that reminds you of Elkhart Lake and Laguna...

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by Pete Fenelon

I've deliberately not tried to poach Long Beach from IRL - it's going to be their showcase race for a while so they'll hang on to it.

Ermm.. What?

Not in order of season.

1. Toronto
2. Long Beach
3. Cleveland
4. Indy 500
5. Watkins Glen
6. Road America/Elkhart Lake
7. Laguna Seca
8. Autódromo Hermanos RodrÃ*guez - Mexico City, Mexico
9. Homestead
10. Michigan
11. Texas
12. New York City - street course
13. Gold Coast - Surfers Paradise, Qld Australia
14. Interlagos - Brazil
15. Sebring
16. Road Atlanta

[norman-normal]

I'm sure happy KK has his own ideas.

[icemachine]

1. St. Petersburg
2. Long Beach
3. Las Vegas
4. Mexico City
5. Toronto
6. Montreal
7. Edmonton
8. Cleveland
9. Gold Coast
10. Road America
11. Laguna Seca
12. Michigan
13. Indianapolis
14. Portland
15. Denver
16. Sebring

4 tracks I would add to make a 20 race season

Spa
Brands Hatch
Twin Ring Motegi
Monterrey

Other tracks I'd like to see are Beijing, Ansan, Lausitring, Rockingham and Watkins Glen. Somehow I doubt we'll be seeing a 25 race season anytime though.