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Old 18 Mar 2001, 00:31 (Ref:72081)   #1
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Qualifying results from Phoenix International Raceway follow:

1) Greg Ray, No. 2 Johns Manville/Menards Dallara/Aurora, 20.2631/177.663
2) Sam Hornish Jr., No. 4 Pennzoil Panther Dallara/Aurora, 20.3619/176.801
3) Jeff Ward, No. 35 Heritage Motorsports GForce/Aurora, 20.4883/175.716
4) Stephan Gregoire, No. 7 Tokheim/Nasa Guides Dallara/Aurora, 20.6372/174.442
5) Gil de Ferran, No. 66 Penske Auto Centers Dallara/Aurora, 20.6897/174.000
6) Buddy Lazier, No. 91 Tae-Bo/Coors Light Dallara/Aurora, 20.6966/173.942
7) Billy Boat, No. 98 CURB Records/Beck Dallara/Aurora, 20.7898/173.162
8) Robbie Buhl, No. 24 Team Purex GForce/Infiniti, 20.7955/173.114
9) Felipe Giaffone, No. 21 Hollywood GForce/Aurora, 20.8054/173.049
10) Scott Sharp, No. 8 Delphi Automotive Systems Dallara/Aurora, 20.8097/172.996
11) Buzz Calkins, No. 12 Bradley Food Marts Dallara/Aurora, 20.8352/172.785
12) Eddie Cheever Jr., No. 51 Excite@Home Dallara/Infiniti, 20.8501/172.661
13) Stan Wattles, No. 92 Hemelgarn Racing Dallara/Aurora, 20.8560/172.612
14) Mark Dismore, No. 28 Bryant Heating & Cooling Dallara/Aurora, 20.8666/173.525
15) Robby McGehee, No. 10 Olympus/Cahill Racing Dallara/Aurora, 20.9064/172.196
16) Helio Castroneves, No. 68 Penske Auto Centers Dallara/Aurora, 20.9285/172.014
17) Eliseo Salazar, No. 14 Harrah’s/A.J. Foyt Racing Dallara/Aurora, 20.8547/172.623
18) Airton Dare, No. 88 1-800-BAR NONE GForce/Aurora, 21.2188/169.661
19) Tyce Carlson, No. 6 Tri-Star Motorsports Dallara/Aurora, 21.2304/169.568
20) Davey Hamilton, No. 99 Sam Schmidt Motorsports Dallara/Aurora, 21.2618/169.318
21) Sarah Fisher, No. 15 Walker Racing Dallara/Aurora, 21.3209/168.848
22) Jeret Schroeder, No. 9 Summit Packaging/PDM Dallara/Aurora, 21.3531/168.594
23) Al Unser Jr., No. 3 Starz Super Pak/Galles GForce/Aurora, 21.6883/165.988
24) Shigeaki Hattori, No. 55 EPSON Dallara/Aurora, 21.7637/165.413
25) Casey Mears, No. 31 SportsLine.com/Galles GForce/Aurora, 21.8585/164.696
26) Brandon Erwin, No. 30 WorldBestBuy.com GForce/Aurora, 22.3791/160.864
27) Didier Andre, No. 32 Galles Racing GForce/Aurora, 22.8211/157.749
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 09:15 (Ref:72184)   #2
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i have one question.

who the saint fernando is stan wattles? and why is he faster than helio?
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 11:33 (Ref:72253)   #3
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Bella- he's an established star of the IRL hehe ("I-R what?")

How about p23? Doh!

And i know you shouldn't read too much into one qualifying session, but wasn't Casey Mears going to be the next big thing?
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 16:02 (Ref:72338)   #4
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What happened to Scot Goodyear????
Look there is Al Unser Jr. behind Sarah Fisher!!!!!!!
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 16:32 (Ref:72368)   #5
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Little Al, it's time to retire when you are beaten by a girl!

P.S. Sarah Fisher is a very good racer and I wish her a successful race.

Crash, an "Established Star" and "IRL" are mutually exclusive terms.
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 17:37 (Ref:72408)   #6
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Go Sarah!

I don't know much about IRL, but Casey Mears surely must drive the equivalent to Minardi in this series?!?
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 19:44 (Ref:72473)   #7
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Galles are a decent team, Unser won a race with them last year. I think the G-Force and Dallara are pretty closely matched as far as chassis go.
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Old 18 Mar 2001, 22:45 (Ref:72566)   #8
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Well, that was not a race for the ages.

Gil was 'sandwiched' by two IRLers when he was just in the lead of the race and heading for the pits (the commentator I heard said the guy in front was not paying attention!) and Helio has blown up.

When I turned it off, about six other people had either blown up or caught fire (Sarah Fisher was on fire).

So there you go.

I think I also noticed that Little Al was lapped twice.
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Old 19 Mar 2001, 04:14 (Ref:72626)   #9
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Is this 'Pheonix' some kind of a race?
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Old 19 Mar 2001, 06:03 (Ref:72633)   #10
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Phoenix once upon a time was a really good Cart race- for a 1 mile bull ring it's incredibly fast, it was probably the first short oval with a lap record under the 20 second mark (and iirc, it was Our Paul who first broke it). It used to put on some great racing...much better than some of the dud ovals that Champ Cars race on these days..
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Old 19 Mar 2001, 12:34 (Ref:72678)   #11
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I didn't watch it very closely, but it was funny to hear all those names I thought were gone forever.

Apparently it is now being said that Gil turned in too late on his way to the pits and he was the one who caused the 3 car pileup. If anyone can find a press release or write up about this race, would you post the URL?
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Old 19 Mar 2001, 14:34 (Ref:72702)   #12
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A full report of the IRL race can be found at http://rpm.espn.go.com/rpm/seriesIndex?series=irl . Also, Jeret Schroder is an idiot. He ran into the back of deFerran when Gil was clearly on the apron of the track attempting entering the pit. He then tried to blame deFerran for the accident. You have to be awake to drive a racecar, Jeret!
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 01:16 (Ref:72925)   #13
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Thanks, and welcome SevenGrain! The local paper was very despising about Penske ("Penske Flops in IRL Opener" is their headline). Nice to read something that tells me what actually happened.
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Not including the Cart drivers, I honestly have not heard of anymore than 5 of those racers.

I tried the Pheonix circuit in Indycar 2. It is actually the most fun of the mile ovals. However, I found it very tight, and rather hard to pass, except at the first corner under braking. Still, more fun than any short oval on the current Cart track. You come so close to those walls, at such high speeds. It is as if you are about to have 3 big crashes every lap, and you just barely get by every time. Excellent!
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 06:05 (Ref:72960)   #15
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Phoenix is an excellent track, and when in was a CART event prior to 1996, the grandstands were always full. Now there are more empty seats than full. One of the best CART races ever was held at Phoenix in 1993. Nigel Mansell and Paul Tracy traded the lead several times at high speed in heavy traffic. Mansell won and Tracy ended up in the wall. Now aerodynamic restrictions on the short ovals ( The Hanford MkII) make that type of racing nearly impossible.
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 10:57 (Ref:72982)   #16
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Hmmm....I don't think Nige won in 1993. In practice he stuffed it in well and truely, and was KOed in the accident. So Mario was the only starter for Newman Hass. Paul was flying, and I think he lapped the field. However he tried a move on a backmarker, didn't make it, and promptly stuffed it in.
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 15:17 (Ref:73039)   #17
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I must say (and in a nice way)

If you dont know who the drivers are ..watch the races and find out who they are

out of the whole field there was only one driver I have never heard of ..Brandon something ????

as for the de ferran crash...hmmmm..line ball on that one...de ferran was clearly NOT on the apron and jeret was not paying attention as much as he should..it was just an unfortunate accident.

it wasnt a bad race and Sam Hornish drove to perfection and deserved his first ever IRL victory and buddy lazier also performed well despite being stuck in first gear.

was interested to see Jason Priestly commentating and he did a reasonably good job

looks like being a very good year for the IRL and I am waiting for Indy with baited breathe.

GO BUDDY !!!!!
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 15:39 (Ref:73044)   #18
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OOps, I stand corrected. Nigel did sit out Phoenix in 1993 and Mario won the event. I can't imagine how I forgot that. I think I was confusing two different races, Phoenix and maybe New Hampshire or something. There's been a lot of racing since then.
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 16:04 (Ref:73047)   #19
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another OPPS..Buddy lazier wa stuck in fourth gear not first
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If he'd driven like that in first gear, he could be in Formula One tomorrow!

But unless the Penske boys are racing, I don't think I'll watch any more IRL races. I really don't even like oval racing in Champ Cars.
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Old 20 Mar 2001, 19:45 (Ref:73093)   #21
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I don't watch or follow IRL, quite simply because it's not shown on a channel that I can receive. If it was, I think I would watch it.

You have to wonder about "Widdle" Al though, I would think it's rather humiliating for someone with his name and previous record to be performing this badly in such company, as we know the CART drivers are better than this lot.
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I am beginning to enjoy IRL more and more. And I love the fast-mile Phoenix track.

If you dont know the players, just pick one and follow him/her for a few races. I pick Robbie Buhl. He is a fellow Michaganian, and a 10/10's member.
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I pick Robbie Buhl. He is a fellow Michaganian, and a 10/10's member.

WHAT !!!!!


Robbie where are you ????

since when did this happen ..or are ya just pulling my leg?

anyway I have followed the IRL since 1997 and have found it a great series..sure the technology isnt up with the best (allthough they cars are quite technical) and the drivers are not household names but they are still very good drivers..mainly I like the shape of the cars ..thats what attracted me to it at first and now i think it is a good series and treat it with the same respect I show all other classes of racing.
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Old 21 Mar 2001, 17:12 (Ref:73323)   #24
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Found him! Username "Rob Buhl", and he registered on March 13th, so it's no wonder you didn't know yet, Marcus.

Well, I'll look for his name on the result sheets from IRL then, and hope he does well!

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