Ferrari's Friday pace (Sunday)

**Adam43** · 6 May 2005, 18:06 (Ref:1294538)

I presume that it is business as normal and Ferrari will be on the pace as this kind of thing is normal. However do you agree with Rubens when he says 11th and 13th on Friday is nothing to worry about?
http://www.autosport-atlas.com/news.aspx?id=43956&s=5

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As usual on a Friday, we don't really know what the opposition has done, so it is hard to get a clear picture of the situation. I am optimistic because the situation is quite similar to Imola, in that we can expect to have a very competitive car for the race.

Basically what is the best guess at the Spanish track 2005 from what little we know? Will they get the Ferrari and Bridgestones to work? The track has been re-surfaced.

I think top five in the race, podium at the end?

speedbump · 6 May 2005, 18:21 (Ref:1294553)

I agree, top 5 or podium for Schumacher but Rubens may not get points.
He's been a little off.

I just looked threw a artical on Planet f1.
Schumachers concerned about pace.

http://www.planet-f1.com/news/story_19433.shtml

You can never under estimate Ferrari.
They'll do well.

I think MS is just playing with the media.

Mr V · 6 May 2005, 18:21 (Ref:1294554)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

However do you agree with Rubens when he says 11th and 13th on Friday is nothing to worry about?

Well, Friday at Imola saw Michael 4th and 6th and Rubens 11th and 7th in 1st and 2nd practice. Saturday practice 1 saw Michael 1st and Rubens 2nd, so we had better wait to see what tomorrow brings.

That said, if Ferrari show the sort of pace during the race that we saw in Imola, the other teams better start worrying.

Mr V · 6 May 2005, 18:25 (Ref:1294557)

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Originally Posted by speedbump

I just looked threw a artical on Planet f1.
Schumachers concerned about pace.

I think MS is just playing with the media.

Agreed, Michael is imo, playing with the media. In that article, it mentions that Michael was 3 seconds off De La Rosa's pace. The article forgot to mention that Michaels engine was on it's 2nd race weekend, Pedro's engine doesn't matter as he's back to testing duties.

Should Ferrari be 3 seconds a lap slower in the race, i'll very surprised (whilst ecstatic at the same time

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shiny side up! · 6 May 2005, 18:36 (Ref:1294562)

Whilst we are obviously going to have to wait until Sunday to see for sure, their pace today sure does raise questions. What an odd year this is turning out to be!

For starters, all year long the Minardis have been toward the top of the speed traps. Really! Just take a gander at the formula1.com site!

Ferrari's pace has been erratic, both due to the car and the tires. But come on, 2 seconds a lap quicker than the field at Imola? The same track that saw other front-running cars (Toyota, Williams) struggle? While Saubers run strong, and a Jordan outpaces one of the Williams, Ferraris, and a Toyota??

Now we get back to a track at which aero is supposed to be crucial, and we see the Toyotas and Red Bulls back up front while Ferrari struggles... nobody's performance is consistent! Well, save Fernando's and Jarno's...

speedbump · 6 May 2005, 18:44 (Ref:1294570)

We'll see Tomorrow.
I feel it will be much closer.
3 seconds off. No way.
Like you said. 2nd engine.

Marbot · 6 May 2005, 19:00 (Ref:1294581)

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Originally Posted by speedbump

We'll see Tomorrow.
I feel it will be much closer.
3 seconds off. No way.
Like you said. 2nd engine.

Don't Ferrari have a new engine for this weekend?

They didn't do many laps in Bahrain,so they used the same engine in Imola.I could be wrong,but i think that's the case.

Inigo Montoya · 6 May 2005, 19:06 (Ref:1294585)

They always seem to go at it slowly on Friday. Probably just checking out the tyre compounds. I think they'll be fine on Sunday.

speedbump · 6 May 2005, 19:12 (Ref:1294590)

I think Imola was a new engine ???
Remember one of the races MS pulled in before the last lap.
Everyone thought Ferrari was going to change engines but they didn't because it would hurt there strategy later in the season or Imola. If they would have chnges engines than Imola would have been the second race on the same engine.

I think that's how it went.

Marbot · 6 May 2005, 19:20 (Ref:1294595)

Given that Monaco isn't very hard on engines,wouldn't it be better to have a used one there?

Also the new car was not meant to be introduced until Spain,so i think maybe they do have new engines.

ralf fan · 6 May 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1294598)

Well....for all we know they might come and take pole by 2 secs tomorrow....

Marbot · 6 May 2005, 19:32 (Ref:1294602)

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Originally Posted by ralf fan

Well....for all we know they might come and take pole by 2 secs tomorrow....

I think at least one of them will not be in the top ten.

Does anyone know if they have new engines?!

chillibowl · 6 May 2005, 20:05 (Ref:1294626)

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Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya

They always seem to go at it slowly on Friday. Probably just checking out the tyre compounds. I think they'll be fine on Sunday.

ferrari definatly take a very methodical role in determining their set-up, and questions about the bridgestone compounds will onle add to that. i don't think we can really comment on what their race pace will be like until sat. practice at the earliest. thoses guys at ferrari are very good at waiting until it counts to show their true pace.

RB didn't finish last race so i believe he is allowed a new engine and MS finished second so unless he wants to be dropped back ten spots(which for him doesn't seem to be a big deal) will be on the second leg of this engine

Kicking-back · 6 May 2005, 20:52 (Ref:1294644)

Michael Schumacher has a new engine this weekend.

The one at Imola was on its second race, having been used at Sakhir.

chillibowl · 6 May 2005, 21:03 (Ref:1294650)

didnt MS go out in bahrain giving him a new engine at imola?

**Adam43** · 6 May 2005, 21:34 (Ref:1294682)

He kept the same engine from Bahrain.

The scrutineering report from Imola confirms this: http://www.fia.com/resources/documen..._Report_05.PDF

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Originally Posted by FIA scrut. report Imola

TECHNICAL DELEGATE’S REPORT

The following drivers will start the fourth Event of the 2005 Formula One World Championship with a new
engine:

Number Car Driver
03 BAR Honda Jenson Button
04 BAR Honda Takuma Sato
06 Renault Giancarlo Fisichella
08 Williams BMW Nick Heidfeld
11 Sauber Petronas Jacques Villeneuve
19 Jordan Toyota Narain Karthikeyan
None of the above cars has finished the last race in Bahrain.

20 Minardi Cosworth Patrick Friesacher
21 Minardi Cosworth Christijan Albers
The two cars above have finished the last race in Bahrain.

Jo Bauer
FIA Formula One Technical Delegate

Pitstop · 6 May 2005, 21:47 (Ref:1294694)

Thanks for that Adam.

Kicking-back · 6 May 2005, 21:50 (Ref:1294696)

forix - at autosport-atlas.com

Adam RR · 6 May 2005, 22:12 (Ref:1294715)

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Ferari's first race win of the 2005 season.

Alex Hodgkinson · 6 May 2005, 22:57 (Ref:1294738)

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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Ferari's first race win of the 2005 season.

That I very much hope and also believe will be the case

Ferrari must be extremely confident to sandbag to such an extent today..

JeremySmith · 6 May 2005, 23:46 (Ref:1294746)

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Originally Posted by Adam RR

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Ferari's first race win of the 2005 season.

Excuse double post

JeremySmith · 6 May 2005, 23:47 (Ref:1294747)

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Originally Posted by Adam RR

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Ferari's first race win of the 2005 season.

That sounds like the plan to me!

Marbot · 7 May 2005, 00:55 (Ref:1294762)

Would they want to sandbag with a new engine?

I'd want to make sure in the engines first race that everything was how it should be.11th and 13th,3 seconds off is leaving just a little too much to do IMHO.

KR is more like the real deal i think.

One of the Ferraris outside the top ten in 1st qually.Which one will it be!

jj2728 · 7 May 2005, 02:06 (Ref:1294778)

Ferrari will win.........everyone else at this stage of the season bar (no pun intended) Renault, sucks ass....that is the kindest way that i can put it....you may now ban me if you like....i could care less...........

speedbump · 7 May 2005, 03:17 (Ref:1294813)

Thanks for thr report Adam.
For some reason I thought Ferrari had a new engine in Imola.

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