ITV programme plugging

mark_l · 5 Jul 2004, 14:41 (Ref:1026800)

I was surprised it took James Allen 12 minutes before he started plugging the Euro2004 Final.

I dont seem to recall the footy commentators plugging the British GP coverage in return, although I stand to be corrected.

garcon · 5 Jul 2004, 14:47 (Ref:1026809)

Let's face it, who's gonna watch the footy on ITV when it's on BBC too?

Tiptop · 5 Jul 2004, 15:16 (Ref:1026835)

Suprisinly some of us Motor sport fans can't stand football which irritates the hell out of me when they plug it!

Bunch of overpaid pansies diving around on the floor waiting for the magic sponge to be attended to their sore spots!

Lets keep F1 and football seperate please!

garcon · 5 Jul 2004, 15:25 (Ref:1026844)

But ITV Sport is proud of what it can get, so you can't blame them. And football is followed by more people in Britain than any other sport. Can't you just ignore the 20 seconds or so while they plug football on F1?

Anyway, as you say, let's keep footy and F1 separate, at least in this forum...

Kicking-back · 5 Jul 2004, 15:29 (Ref:1026847)

It makes perfect commercial sense for a broadcaster to forward promote.

The TV business is all about getting people to watch your channel for as many hours a week as possible.

Therefore, when an event like the European Championships is on BBC and ITV, ITV want people to watch it on ITV.

Knowlesy · 5 Jul 2004, 16:31 (Ref:1026911)

I love football.

I can't stand it when ITV plug it during F1 coverage.

I'll always watch BBC coverage anyways....always interesting and hilarious to listen to Hansen, Lineker and Wrighty!

Phoenix1 · 5 Jul 2004, 17:09 (Ref:1026956)

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Originally posted by garcon
But ITV Sport is proud of what it can get, so you can't blame them. And football is followed by more people in Britain than any other sport. Can't you just ignore the 20 seconds or so while they plug football on F1?

I understand the quick twenty seconds and had been inthe reminder that the TDF (Tour de France) was on was useful however the plug was (I watched it on video laster) nearly 15 minutes long they should have finished F1 and moved on without ad breaks and I could except that.

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Anyway, as you say, let's keep footy and F1 separate, at least in this forum...

I agree, which I know contradicts myself because I am posting here *tells self off* but I though it was best to respond since it is up!

BootsOntheSide · 5 Jul 2004, 17:43 (Ref:1026983)

Apparently the BBC got 3 times the viewing figures of ITV for the match, even though the ITV match represented the final show of the popular (especialy with women of a certain age) presenter Des Lynam. Hopefully the practice of showing the same match on 2 channels at once will end now.

James Allen's basically a corporate whore, sad to say. He always says what his employers want him to say. Murray never did anythign like this - in fact he avoided naming sponsors and suppliers who weren't having a big effect on performance.

Vicki · 5 Jul 2004, 19:39 (Ref:1027106)

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Originally posted by Tiptop
Suprisinly some of us Motor sport fans can't stand football which irritates the hell out of me when they plug it!

Bunch of overpaid pansies diving around on the floor waiting for the magic sponge to be attended to their sore spots!

Lets keep F1 and football seperate please!

So true. In football, you aren't really going to die if you mess up, in F1, there's always the possibility of injury. Anyway, why can't they use the adverts to ADVERTISE like every other channel, or at least just as an afterthought at the end of the F1?

Hugh Jarce · 5 Jul 2004, 20:57 (Ref:1027285)

Why don't ITV break the football coverage up with adverts during injuries etc in the same way that they foul up the F1 coverage? Footie has 50 mins without a break.

Interesting how some games can pull rank on the advertisers - clearly F1 can't!

**Aysedasi** · 5 Jul 2004, 21:06 (Ref:1027302)

At least Portugal v. Greece was a tad less predictable than virtually every GP this season.......

**Aysedasi** · 5 Jul 2004, 21:08 (Ref:1027308)

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Originally posted by BootsOntheSide

James Allen's basically a corporate whore, sad to say. He always says what his employers want him to say. Murray never did anythign like this - in fact he avoided naming sponsors and suppliers who weren't having a big effect on performance.

Well, there are plenty of "corporate whores" around - fact of life. Good old Murray was from the "old school" and had a job for as long as he wanted it. He didn't have to pander to his bosses to the same extent as the vast majority have to.....

**Adam43** · 5 Jul 2004, 22:19 (Ref:1027429)

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Originally posted by Aysedasi
At least Portugal v. Greece was a tad less predictable than virtually every GP this season.......

Here is a thread that may interest you: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=56624

BootsOntheSide · 5 Jul 2004, 22:27 (Ref:1027442)

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Originally posted by Aysedasi
Well, there are plenty of "corporate whores" around - fact of life. Good old Murray was from the "old school" and had a job for as long as he wanted it. He didn't have to pander to his bosses to the same extent as the vast majority have to.....

Couldn't've put it better myself. Sad but true I guess.

Kicking-back · 6 Jul 2004, 01:44 (Ref:1027539)

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Originally posted by BootsOntheSide

James Allen's basically a corporate whore, sad to say. He always says what his employers want him to say. Murray never did anythign like this - in fact he avoided naming sponsors and suppliers who weren't having a big effect on performance.

If Murray was told by the bosses to do a plug for the football he'd have done a plug for the football.

N I Tram · 6 Jul 2004, 12:34 (Ref:1028003)

He never did though, even when the World Cup 98 final was on after the British GP.

**Aysedasi** · 6 Jul 2004, 12:36 (Ref:1028006)

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Originally posted by AdamAshmore
Here is a thread that may interest you: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=56624

Been there Adam. My solitary post consisted of one word - "Yes".

**Aysedasi** · 6 Jul 2004, 12:37 (Ref:1028008)

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Originally posted by Kicking-back
If Murray was told by the bosses to do a plug for the football he'd have done a plug for the football.

They probably never asked him in case he got the plug mixed up......

RTH · 6 Jul 2004, 13:13 (Ref:1028051)

Don't you just wish Jim Rosenthal would get himself back to a football stadium and stay there.

**BertMk2** · 6 Jul 2004, 14:30 (Ref:1028107)

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Don't you just wish Jim Rosenthal would get himself back to a football stadium and stay there.

Don't get me started

Jim and Matt Smith (from Speed Sunday) are football presenters - they have no real interest in motorsport and it shows, they're appalling.

Mark Mitchell · 6 Jul 2004, 15:04 (Ref:1028146)

As someone who knows about these things........

The footy commentators/presenters would not promote the GP IF the GP was on prior to the footy!!

The F1 team WILL "Tease Ahead" (As we call it in broadcasting)to a forthcoming programme.
This is called Cross-Promoting. It's an unwritten rule in broadcasting that you don't refer BACK - that's why the footy guys won't usually be mentioning formula 1 etc.
IF there was a live football match on TV in the afternoon on ITV1 and then a F1 race in the evening - say Canada or USA, then I could pretty much guarentee that the footy guys WOULD have to plug the F1

We have to do similar in radio too!

Barbazza · 6 Jul 2004, 15:18 (Ref:1028156)

I hate to stick up for ITV, really I do. But I have seen them plug Formula One during their football shows. As for adverts during footy coverage I'd guess that in the two hours of a football match and a GP there are probably the same number, just that in football you get loads before, at half-time, and afterwards. As for the Jim question, I'm putting my anti-ITV hat back on. However, we've discussed before who should replace James Allen - which sports presenter should replace Jim? I liked Matt Lorenzo on Bernie vision.

Logrence · 7 Jul 2004, 20:42 (Ref:1029600)

OK...cross-promoting, I can understand that...but would June Ackland interrupt the Bill to tell viewers what an exciting episode of Coronation Street was coming up later this evening? NO!

Why was James Allen using his commentary during the race to make a lengthy diatribe on something he clearly knows even less about than Formula One?

And why is The Count on F1 anyway? Isn't that a cross-promotion too far? Confusing your brand identities, I say.

I thought Tony Jardine did a brilliant job of presenting that Goodwood programme...I also think his punditry is rubbish - time for a reshuffle.

jiggly_puff · 8 Jul 2004, 00:28 (Ref:1029750)

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Originally posted by Logrence
And why is The Count on F1 anyway?

I was quite shocked they allowed him to interview michael schumacher, i found it quite insulting really as jim knows no more than anyother fan, and had no clue how to get good results out of an interview with such potential!!! surely martin would have been better for this - them being past team mates and both drivers etc.

gringottsdirect · 8 Jul 2004, 00:35 (Ref:1029752)

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Originally posted by jiggly_puff
... i found it quite insulting really as jim knows no more than anyother fan....

Now really, that is an insult to F1 fans !

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