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25 Mar 2005, 14:59 (Ref:1261540) | #1 | ||
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Fave...qually performances of all time...
Well normally it is a the race performances that get most of the acclaim and rightly so...
but you have to admit it takes some great skill and pace to pump in the times in quallifying...especially under the old format where everyone basically ran on similar fuel loads. So what are your fave qually laps...doesnt necessarily have to be a pole time.. |
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All my favourites come from the old qualifying system, bar one, doubt we'll ever see many truly great laps from the post 2002 systems......
Montoya, Silverstone 2002 and Monza 2002. Mansell, Silverstone 1990 and 1992. Schuey at Hockenheim 2000, Monaco 1996 and Malaysia 1999. Trulli, Monaco 2004. Countless Senna efforts. Alonso at most 2001 meetings. Tarso Marques, first run, Melbourne 2001. There are many more, I just can't be bothered dredging the memory! |
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I don't remember qualifying sessions too well...only ones with astounding results. I think the French grand prix session of 1999 is easily my favourite of recent times, with Barrichello, Alesi & Panis taking the top three spots in mid-field cars in the rain.
The classic which I can remember though is Melbourne 1996 - when Irvine set 3rd in the dying moments of the session - beating Michael in their first ever qualifying session together, and the first in the new one session format. I just remember John Watson crying out the acheivement in astonishment. |
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Like knowlesy, the ones that stick in my mind is Montoya at Silverstone and Monza in 2002. He broke the record at both for average speed didn't he ?
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25 Mar 2005, 15:54 (Ref:1261577) | #5 | |
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He broke the average lap speed at Monza.
Silverstone wasn't a record in any way, just an outstanding effort! |
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Mika Hakkinen, many times - particularly Estoril 1993.
Ayrton Senna, many times also. |
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Damon Hill,Jerez,97,Arrows-Yamaha.3rd on the grid,thousandths off pole.Sure it was down to the tyres (Bridgestone)but it was a great lap and Diniz (in the oven )in the sister car was nowhere.
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Rosberg's 160mph lap with a slow puncture.
Keke pulled off a similar miracle at Brands in 1982 - only for the car to give up at the start... |
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25 Mar 2005, 19:39 (Ref:1261720) | #9 | ||
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Every Montoya pole lap
But my fave of all time........ Hockenheim 1995, the German crowd went ballistic when Michael set the fastest time for pole, only to be silenced about 10 seconds later when Damon went even quicker, pure entertainment |
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Or British GP '94 - I like the footage on the season review vid of Hill biting his nails and filling his pants cos Schuey was so close to his lap. I'm too young to remember but peeps seem to say Senna's best ever was '88 Monaco.
Shame the Max and Bernie can't see how crap modern day qualifying is. |
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25 Mar 2005, 21:22 (Ref:1261798) | #11 | |
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I was going to mention Hakkinen KB, but I couldn't think of one that stood out! All his laps were generally spot on and error free. I miss Hakkinens quali magic.
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25 Mar 2005, 22:02 (Ref:1261922) | #12 | ||
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Onboard with Senna at Monaco was always fun to watch!
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Couldn't agree more there with Hakkinen, he was always fun to watch, and always set very fast qualifying laps. Montoya has had a few in his time, a shame he hasn't had as many wins. Schumi, has always been good, Monaco '00, was my favourite as he clamied pole, and Jarno Trulli, did well in second. That was special. But my favourite performance of all time was Jerez '97. Three drivers (Villeneuve, Schui and Frentzen) both set exautly the same times, and was set by who, managed the time first. Amazing. |
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25 Mar 2005, 22:15 (Ref:1261936) | #14 | ||
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Btw the times were:>............
Pole: Jacques Villeneuve 1m'21''072 2nd: Michael Schumacer 1m'21''072 3rd: Heinz-Harold Frentzen 1m'21''072 And then to top it off, Damon Hill in the Arrows was 4th! Less than a tenth down. |
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25 Mar 2005, 23:47 (Ref:1261993) | #16 | ||
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I can't remember the exact year (may have been 1993 or 1994) but when Damon Hill set pole position sending Murray into superlatives about what a great lap he had just done, then spun off at the first corner...
I remember Murray actually talked to Damon in the cockpit through radio as he was trundling back and asked him something like "Did you spin because you saw the time and were shocked you were so quick?" |
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That was Hockenheim 1995, and he went off due to a wheel bearing failure! |
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Senna @ Silverstone 1992. Nigel got the pole but I watched Ayrton dance throught the complex. Also, it was an era of exotic fuels so my eyes were watering for the rest of the session. There are others but that lap is still burned into my memory.
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My personal favourites for both Senna and Schuey are at Monaco - 1988 for Ayrton when he entered thatplace, and 1996 for Schuey because that Ferrari really shouldn't have been anywhere near pole, nevermind be able to put two laps quick enough to start 1st. I didn't see it, but I imagine Gilles' lap at Monaco in 1981 to get on the front row in the 126CK must have been pretty amazing.
Outside of those, Rosberg's '85 lap record and Mansell's '92 pole at Silverstone stand out. |
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26 Mar 2005, 11:03 (Ref:1262205) | #21 | |
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[QUOTE=Hazard]I don't remember qualifying sessions too well...only ones with astounding results. I think the French grand prix session of 1999 is easily my favourite of recent times, with Barrichello, Alesi & Panis taking the top three spots in mid-field cars in the rain.
QUOTE] That French session was indeed good - some strong wet performances from different cars, and 5 people failing to qualify. Shame we never saw it, as ITV were in the midst of some dispute with Bernie! There was a similarly bizare session in austria about the same time, with fishi and alesi on top as I recall. No such excitement these days though... |
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I remember a great Nigel Roebuck column after the French GP 1999, mocking the top teams for staying put in their garages for the first half of the session, waiting for the track to get faster, only for the track to get slower as the rain poured, thus leaving them at the back of the grid....LOL.
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I like real stand out efforts that put cars where they shouldn't be....
OK, some, like Minardis on the front row are more down to special qually tyres, but on a more level playing field there have been some remarkable laps. Alesi at Monaco in 2000 in the awful Prost Peugeot (7th) was a real star effort, as was Fisichella in the Jordan in 2002 at Hockenheim (6th I think). In fact Fisi at Spa in 2001 in the underpowered Benetton was equally impressive. A couple of times in 2001 Alonso poked his Minardi into 16th or 17th on the grid when it should have been 19th. These things go unnoticed at the time, but underline why the current championship order is not a surprise |
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I thought the old turbo era was the very best for qualifying.... weld the wastegates shut, wind up the boost... you have 3 laps Mr Driver, till the turbo blows... go for it!!
The BMW/Megatron engines were phenomenal for this, spitting fire, and oil, and unburnt fuel... and prodigious power, blowing off just about anything up the straight, till they got to a wiggle bit, and whatever chassis they were bolted into kinda didnt stick to the program.... Or Mr Senna's sublime talents to overcome the inadequacies of his Lotus Renault and bang it on pole in the dying moment of qualifying.... always on the limit (or over it....) all the time, every time... Remember the sparks from the skidplates as the cars dragged along the ground... awesome to watch... Ahhhh those were the days.... man vs machine... hoping to keep the engines alive long enough so a hot lap could come from them |
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Apologies, i thought that's what you meant The only other type of failure i can remember for Damon was @ Silverstone in 1994 and his suspension collapsed because the mechanics forgot to bolt the uprights onto the chassis |
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