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Make them more careful about going off there
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I applaud the idea, hope it doesn't come back to haunt them.
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I remember that in the same interview where that change was announced, they also mentioned that grass would be reintroduced at Blanchimont. Any news on that?
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They look like speed bumps to me, which is not good at all!
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of course the left run off of the radillion/eau rouge can't be enlarged more than that, but anyway is not the safest place to place those kerbs IMHO.
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Honestly I can't see this going well at the start of the Spa 24h. The intent is noble though, so I hope it doesn't contribute to any potentially dangerous incidents.
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Wow. Track changes for the better shock!
Will they keep them for the F1 though? I doubt it. |
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How long will they keep those there? Might be a temporary thing.
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Would be a reasonably good idea at preventing cars from crossing the inside line too far were it not for the fact that many cars also venture into this area unwanted. And then, it's just outright dangerous...
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Put it down to drivers constantly ignoring track limits, something had to be done.
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Put a moat there, with sharks. They might avoid it then.
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Now there's a chance to do serious damage to the car or get sent into the wall. Sometimes you get it wrong at Eau Rouge especially with traffic so you need an out. It's like saying the massive run off at pouhon shouldn't be there. You lose it there and you're in the fence most times anyway, but the extra real estate can help. |
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But anyway. While I OBVIOUSLY agree that something needs to be done, especially with this circuit, why not just reintroduce grass and gravel instead of this dangerous car-into-air-launching-mess. |
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Electronic technology to penalise drivers for exceeding track limits is already being used, and could have been adopted for Radillon. My guess is that the 'speed humps' were cheaper!
Sensors have already been introduced at some MSV tracks that trigger cameras on certain corners. I know Brands and Snetterton have them. Run a wheel over a sensor the wrong side of the limit line and you're nicked! It's then up to race control to take action, of course, which introduces a human element. The speed humps pictured will act as judge and jury without applying any CoC common sense or benefit of doubt... Most cars I've raced at Spa have been on skinny Dunlop cross plies, and produce front end lift rather than downforce. Radillon is always difficult, but introduce an unseen trail of coolant, fuel or oil into the equation (or local rain shower!) and that run off area suddenly becomes your saviour. It is not uncommon either to have cars overtaking up the hill, leading to the possibility of one or other party being forced wide. I'm all for any cars using run off areas to gain an advantage being penalised, but IMHO those humps are not good way of doing it...... |
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Not before time !
LeRadillion is a fabulous part of Spa, as long as you get the hump (just before the top )correct as its this that catches a lot of drivers/cars out. If you get the chance take a walk up and look back down, youll then see how much difference there is in elevation to the norm. Get Eau Rouge entry right is a good way to start. |
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the only worry is perhaps that going over those kerbs can create forces in the wrong direction that bend suspension which then gives way in a faster section of the track with more forces. specially there where they would in all liklihood hit them sideways. but it's going to be a while before we're back at grass and gravel again, so this is a step in the right direction, imo. on another note, nice to see the weather is rubbish at spa as usual |
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