|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
10 Mar 2008, 13:34 (Ref:2148315) | #1 | |||
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
Tony Stewart tries desperately to be controversial again.
zomg, he speaks his mind innit.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65594 He's quite upset at Goodyear's tyres it seems. Quote:
Quote:
|
|||
|
10 Mar 2008, 13:43 (Ref:2148325) | #2 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,559
|
Sorry knowlesy but many other drivers also spoke out about the tire at Atlanta including, Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr, Jimmy Johnson, Kenseth, Jeff Burton, Kyle, Mark Martin. They all had strong words about the tire.
|
||
|
10 Mar 2008, 13:48 (Ref:2148334) | #3 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
I thought Dale Jr. said it best personally.
Didn't like the tyre, but accepted it and got on with it. |
|
|
10 Mar 2008, 14:53 (Ref:2148404) | #4 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,559
|
Quote:
Jeff Gordon stated "there is just no reason for this. This car, this tire at this racetrack was just terrible". Mark Martin simply stated..."I can't drive it". I don't think that Nascar will come down on the drivers as much as they will Goodyear. I believe that Goodyear will be given a good talk by Nascar. |
|||
|
10 Mar 2008, 15:28 (Ref:2148426) | #5 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
Ah, those are new quotes to me. Still prefer those to the drama queen approach all the way.
|
|
|
10 Mar 2008, 16:05 (Ref:2148449) | #6 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,559
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
10 Mar 2008, 16:12 (Ref:2148457) | #7 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 943
|
I thought i saw a quote somewhere from Jnr saying that Goodyear should pull out of NASCAR.
|
||
|
10 Mar 2008, 18:00 (Ref:2148537) | #8 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 11,005
|
I presume that Smoke still has a radio show to promote? Guess that's why he's always so much to say. Wait til Tuesday (I think) and he'll explain on his show what he 'really' meant and how the press blew it out of proportion
|
|
|
10 Mar 2008, 19:18 (Ref:2148594) | #9 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 12,236
|
they all said it was "ridiculous" or "undrivable". Riggs, Bowyer and Bifle, whom all finished in the top 20 stated that they could not race side by side. many others, who did not finish as well, stated the same.
i've always had a love/hate feelings for Smoke. i don't always agree with him, but he speaks his mind no matter what else anyone thinks and i respect him for that. as for saying something constructive, i think he did. according to him, Goodyear has been "kicked out" of every major series that they've supplied tires. not sure if they is the case, but i don't see them in too many other series, and it sounds like Stewart is warning them that they better get there shtuff together before history is repeated. i don't remember JR saying they should leave, but he is one not to shy away from speaking his mind either, so it would not surprise me. thankfully, Goodyear is bringing a tire that they have already tested at Bristol to next weekend's event, unlike the brand new tire at ATL. |
||
__________________
"Knowing that it's in you and you never let it out Is worse than blowing any engine or any wreck you'll ever have." -Mike Cooley |
10 Mar 2008, 22:24 (Ref:2148734) | #10 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,986
|
Quote:
|
||
|
11 Mar 2008, 00:22 (Ref:2148786) | #11 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
But driver whingeing aside - did Goodyear do such a bad job?
They are under no obligation to make a tyre geared for out and out performance as there is no tyre competition. Much like other series with one manufacturer, they aim to make a safe tyre. You can't deny it was safe - how many failures were there yesterday? None that I can think of, and very few put it in the wall. So the cars slid a bit - well slow down then! It seemed the drivers adapted just fine to me. And how much is down to the car anyways? The new car is very top heavy and generates some serious sideways inertia at speed I imagine. It also has little downforce. It's not just the tyres, the car needs to work with the tyres. It is up to Goodyear and NASCAR to work on it and they will get there together. But it may take time, so calm down Tony. Think of fluffy lambs and daffodils. Dry those eyes and have a nice early night. |
|
|
11 Mar 2008, 00:46 (Ref:2148792) | #12 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,986
|
Truth be told, the COT is the main problem rather than the tyre. The COT has a much higher roll centre than its predecessor and has 35% less downforce. The tyres Goodyear are bringing to the races are more or less the same as those they brought last year... the result, the car's burning them out. OK, Goodyear could have developed a more performant tyre, one more suitable to the COT, but that's not the remit of a control tyre supplier. They're obliged to maintain equality/repeatability and most of all, safety.
Chad Knaus, Jimmie Johnson's crew chief, is on Speed at the moment more or less saying the same as I've said above... but he's added that they had great difficulty dialling the COT in at Atlanta and that even very fine pit adjustments were sending the car from too loose to too tight. I think in time Goodyear will develop a tyre better matched to the COT, engineers will learn the COT more and drivers will get used to a racecar with different characteristics. |
|
|
11 Mar 2008, 02:09 (Ref:2148832) | #13 | |||||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 12,236
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
man....what do ya'll expect? that's tony being tony. i think he is upset that his beard his greying, he can't find a barber and he is about 40 lbs (2.857 stone) overwieght |
|||||
__________________
"Knowing that it's in you and you never let it out Is worse than blowing any engine or any wreck you'll ever have." -Mike Cooley |
11 Mar 2008, 05:18 (Ref:2148885) | #14 | ||
Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 63
|
Goodyear seems to have a nasty habit of bringing a different tire to the race than the tire they previously tested at a specific track. I'm not an engineer but I'd love to hear their explanation for that logic.
|
||
__________________
“Face it, Love me or hate me, I'm going to give you a damn good show and drive the wheels off it.” ~ Robby Gordon ~~~Barb~~~ |
11 Mar 2008, 13:44 (Ref:2149151) | #15 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,559
|
Both Jeff Gordon and Ryan Newman have stated that they think Tony went a little overboard with his statements.
|
||
|
11 Mar 2008, 14:25 (Ref:2149187) | #16 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 12,236
|
Quote:
"I don't disagree with him as far as the comfort level...try to give the folks that are doing their jobs the ability and constructive criticism to try to do it better." Newman: "The tire thing is a little blown out proportion. There's alot of things he said that were true. Obviously, he took it to another level. That's Tony. Everybody is different." they did not like the tire, but as other's have stated here, i think it has been a combo of weather, new car and an abrasive, very fast track. but it does seem that Tony is Tony and Goodyear is a bit behind the 8-ball. they'll make it better. eventually. |
|||
__________________
"Knowing that it's in you and you never let it out Is worse than blowing any engine or any wreck you'll ever have." -Mike Cooley |
11 Mar 2008, 18:19 (Ref:2149317) | #17 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 825
|
They have to blame the tires now that they can't criticize what they are attached to. The COT sucks, straight up.
|
||
|
11 Mar 2008, 18:59 (Ref:2149353) | #18 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 18,893
|
||
|
11 Mar 2008, 19:02 (Ref:2149354) | #19 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
He sat in his car preparing that speech.
|
|
|
11 Mar 2008, 20:47 (Ref:2149441) | #20 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,642
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
11 Mar 2008, 20:54 (Ref:2149448) | #21 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
Tony didn't make any point. He just issued a lot of inaccurate statements.
Such as Goodyear supposedly pulling out of F1 because they couldn't compete, despite ending their time in F1 with arguably a better tyre than Bridgestone. |
|
|
11 Mar 2008, 21:08 (Ref:2149459) | #22 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 12,236
|
yeah, i'd much rather follow a series where everyone is nice to each other and speaks well of NASCAR and all their cohorts. it would fun watching a series with a bunch of drivers who were sweet guys and about as interesting as a tree limb. we are getting closer and closer.
|
||
__________________
"Knowing that it's in you and you never let it out Is worse than blowing any engine or any wreck you'll ever have." -Mike Cooley |
11 Mar 2008, 21:09 (Ref:2149461) | #23 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,642
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
11 Mar 2008, 21:19 (Ref:2149473) | #24 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 12,236
|
Quote:
make your own conclusion from that, and i am not sure how accurate that is. |
|||
__________________
"Knowing that it's in you and you never let it out Is worse than blowing any engine or any wreck you'll ever have." -Mike Cooley |
11 Mar 2008, 21:26 (Ref:2149477) | #25 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
Don't get me wrong, I am all for outspoken views. But there is a difference between a spontaneous view and a pre-prepared 'look at me' charade.
For gods sake, after Texas last year he was whining about quitting the sport because he spun or something. Re: Goodyear in F1. Their last season was 1998 in which their top team was Ferrari. Bridgestone had their top team McLaren and won the title. Goodyear started the year behind the 8-Ball, but they clawed back the ground (and more) and nearly sneaked the titles. This despite starting the season after announcing they would be pulling out. If anyone doubts Goodyear's commitment, they are way off the mark. Have they got the right tyre for the car yet? Probably not! Are they perfect? Nope! But they can do the job. |
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Tony Stewart revisited | rush1 | IRL Indycar Series | 2 | 29 Jun 2004 14:48 |
Tony Stewart and Iroc! | Joe Fan | NASCAR & Stock Car Racing | 33 | 20 Jan 2003 11:22 |
Tony Stewart | floid2000 | ChampCar World Series | 5 | 15 May 2001 12:02 |
Tony Stewart!! | Raoul Duke | NASCAR & Stock Car Racing | 24 | 31 Mar 2001 20:58 |
Another Tony Stewart in the making? | Joe Fan | NASCAR & Stock Car Racing | 3 | 22 Mar 2001 10:22 |