Why is the Boss not driving in a decent team??

[LucaBadoer]

Okay, Jos 'the boss' Verstappen cocked it up big time at Benetton in '94, but in the smaller teams, he has really shown his skill. He really is a superlative driver and if he were in a top team, he could have a **** qualifying session and start in P8, but he'd be able to take the lead after lap 1. Jos' starts are simply sensational and I feel that he is one of a long list of drivers who deserve to have a chance at a top team.


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[Maxmil]

He has started well this season, and has moved up through the field on light fuel tanks. His career to date, however, is distinctly unsatisfactory with 83 starts and only 17 points. I believe that the best he has to hope for is what he's got, or, maybe a season or two as number two with a midrank team. His age, 29, also works against him in terms of a real promotion.

[Valve Bounce]

Originally posted by LucaBadoer
Okay, Jos 'the boss' Verstappen cocked it up big time at Benetton in '94, but in the smaller teams, he has really shown his skill. He really is a superlative driver and if he were in a top team, he could have a **** qualifying session and start in P8, but he'd be able to take the lead after lap 1. Jos' starts are simply sensational and I feel that he is one of a long list of drivers who deserve to have a chance at a top team.


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Funny that you posted this thread. I have been thinking all day about posting a thread along the lines of which driver I would like to see in a top car, and, of course, Jos Verstappen was the one I had in mind. I am convinced that if Jos was driving a Williams, McLaren or Ferrari, we would be treated to a great prformance, with wins, podiums, and lots of sensational wins. Just because a driver is on a light fuel load does not mean he can overtake easily - it only means he can keep up with what are normally faster cars. Jos is the exception - he could be thrilling if only his passing moves would place him on the podium. Sadly, I don't think he will be given the chance.

[Wrex]

I find it amazing in this forum that sometimes there are people that think they have better insight than the highly paid professions that do it for a living. If he were good enough to drive in a front running team, he would be there. It can't be that 'only Arrows can afford him'.

Originally posted by Valve Bounce
Just because a driver is on a light fuel load does not mean he can overtake easily - it only means he can keep up with what are normally faster cars.

Oh C'mon Valve, you don't really believe this. Of course running light helps you pass. Your tyres are'nt working as hard as everyone elses and you could be 50kg lighter (about 7% lighter) than others with a better balanced car. Braking distances are reduced and acceleration and top speed increase. How can this not help you pass?

Now don't get me wrong, He is a very good driver, better than most out there, but his performances and passing statistics (that Steve Neilsen loves to show us) are somewhat exaggerated by his light fuel load. As far as passing goes, light car or heavy, he clearly has the knowledge, racecraft and courage to pull it off, unlike many.

Originally posted by Valve Bounce
Sadly, I don't think he will be given the chance.

Well, as was pointed out, he's already had a chance. He is where he is for a reason, (and I know this won't be liked either, so is Badoer) and he should enjoy the racing he has left.

In Sepang he demonstrated his skills to the max, but a few good drives and a very poor qualifying record does'nt mean he should be at the front.

[steve nielsen]

Well , it's very simple: it's very hard for someone from a smal country to get into a top team, but anyway: I think that the Arrows-Ford/Volvo/Cosworth won't be that bad: Arrows have a bought 1 of the best windtunnels in Europe, Eghball Hamidy's repalcement, Nicollo Petrucci, worked for Ferrari and is very good(according to Jos), and there are rumours that Sergio Rinland(who designed this years Sauber) is going to help the design of the A23.

[badoer fan]

Originally posted by Wrex
Well, as was pointed out, he's already had a chance. He is where he is for a reason, (and I know this won't be liked either, so is Badoer) and he should enjoy the racing he has left.

And when, may I ask, did Luca get a chance? In a '99 Minardi? Or possibly you are referring to the brilliant '93 Lola (which Alboreto failed to qualify 5 times)? Luca is at Ferrari for a reason, the reason being he is bloody fantastic, so ner.

[Minardi fan]

Jos in a top team would be great to see because I believe he is a very talented driver. Despite him maturing in recent years, his frequent gravel trap escapades at Tyrrell and co. stick in the minds of potential employers (he wasn't called King of the Gravel Traps for nothing) Therefore it is his inconsistency which is his downfall.

[Liz]

My theory is more practical - there are only two (and occasionally 3) top teams at a time, and that means only six seats available. The odds of anybody getting one of those six seats are pretty slim going in, and figuring that the McLaren team have kept their same drivers since both were in nappies, and nobody is going to turf TGF until he wants to go, that makes one seat at Ferrari and possibly one at Williams - depending on what Montoya does for the rest of the season. With the up-and-comers who could move into those two seats, Jos' age and salary requirments (I would bet) militate against him.

But that doesn't mean he can't have an outstanding career with Arrows and perhaps he will.

[steve nielsen]

Jos excursions through the gravel trap in the Tyrell??, he only had 2 spins that year, the rest where mechanical failures. Also Spa and Magny Cours 1996 in the Arrows are often mistaken for driver errors, those where both suspension failures:

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[Don K]

Originally posted by steve nielsen
Well , it's very simple: it's very hard for someone from a smal country to get into a top team.

Then I guess we will never see a driver from Finland in a top team.

[steve nielsen]

I said it was hard , not impossible, but also remember that when Mika started with Mclaren, it was not a real topteam.....

[EERO]

Good one, Don.

I actually think that any of the guys (okay there may be a few exceptions) could be a winner on one of the top teams. But in F1, the car is everything, and only a very few drivers can transcend the limitations of their car, (TGF being one). At this point. age is working against Verstappen. If a seat were to open at at McLaren with Hakkinen's uncertain retirement, it would go to a youngsterlike Heidfeld or Wurz.

Ironically, as racing has become safer, the opportunities for driver's career to recieve an unexpected boost have declined. In 1978, Alan Jones was ready to return to Australia in obscurity when Shadow called seeking a replacement for the late Tom Pryce. This led to Jones first victory in Austria that year.

[Valve Bounce]

Originally posted by Liz
My theory is more practical - there are only two (and occasionally 3) top teams at a time, and that means only six seats available. The odds of anybody getting one of those six seats are pretty slim going in, and figuring that the McLaren team have kept their same drivers since both were in nappies, and nobody is going to turf TGF until he wants to go, that makes one seat at Ferrari and possibly one at Williams - depending on what Montoya does for the rest of the season. With the up-and-comers who could move into those two seats, Jos' age and salary requirments (I would bet) militate against him.

But that doesn't mean he can't have an outstanding career with Arrows and perhaps he will.

Wait a minute!! Jos is a great friend of TGF. Maybe Rubens will get sick of team orders and swap places with Jos!!