Quickest racing on a budget

[mawds21]

Apologies if this has been done before, but........what are the quickest cars you could buy and race for a budget of roughly £10k (max) for the car, and £7k (max) for the season?

so far i've researched the following:

Radical Clubsport
Monoposto
Formula 4

i dont particularly want to do hatches or saloons, so ideally some sort of sportscar or single seater.

thans in advance

[JNWRF01]

For this one question - you;ll get 1000 opinions!!

I would buy a Formula Renault (well within your price) and run it in F4 next season. If you can stretch a few more thousand - there are good class A Van Diemen F4 cars around. Running budgets are very similar - but I guess damage costs in a Van Diemen (you can get bits from a host of people) will be lower.

Good Luck - hopefully see you out there in F4 next season.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by mawds21

Apologies if this has been done before, but........what are the quickest cars you could buy and race for a budget of roughly £10k (max) for the car, and £7k (max) for the season?

so far i've researched the following:

Radical Clubsport
Monoposto
Formula 4

i dont particularly want to do hatches or saloons, so ideally some sort of sportscar or single seater.

thans in advance

I think that you have it covered and I am sure that your question will spark a "Mono Vs F4" debate and the odd Jedi runner will gatecrash the arguement! If it was me, I'd enter Mono Classic 2000 with either a Vauxhall-Lotus or an older F3 chassis & mono spec engine because you'd easily get a decent car for way less than your £10K purchase budget and be able to run it at the budget suggested. The engines are bullet proof for a start off.

BTW, a Pre 2000 F Renault is also eligible for Mono so you could mix and match to suit your calendar requirements. Don't dismiss a F Ford Zetec or F Ford 2000 (Pinto) either, both of which are eligible for both F4 and (in this case) Mono 1800.

As an alternative you could look at the "Clubmans K-Series" or "Classic Clubmans" series' - front engined Mallocks, Phantoms, Vision's and the like - Slicks and wings and bloody quick.

[mawds21]

thanks guys. always nice to have my research confirmed.

my old man races in 750mc so i'll probably have a crack at F4

[mawds21]

one last question. assuming i want to have a crack at F4 where is the best place to look - i've seen racecarsdirect.com, motorsportads.com and there are a few listed there. but where else should i look? (especially given that the season is now over so i cant go to a race meeting and seewhats for sale)

[JohnMiller]

If you want speed, I wouldn't dismiss the Radical so quickly.

Not too much else for that money has 165bhp, a six-speed sequential box and the possibility to fit a second seat to give rides to any friends and potential sponsors.

[JNWRF01]

take a look at the classifieds on 750mc website also.

Maybe worth asking the Renault gurus if they know what is around to buy.. Mr Pearson is always a good source of knowledge...

[FA73]

Classic FF2000 - in a Van Diemen RF82 ????
Thats a good series inside your budget and a pretty level playing field....

[Triple J Motorsport]

Formula Ford Zetec is probably your cheapest option for spares engines tyres everything race in Monoposto mono 1800 Semsec and F4.

Few good cars for sale at around £7k complete Van Diemen 2001 Mygale 2000

[kelvin88]

I'm going to try out one of them Revelation cars in January. Im not expecting it to be Radical/F3 fast but it certainly seems in on budget!

[Bob Pearson]

I think this is loosing its way a bit, the thread starter was seeking the quickest cars obtainable within his budget. Formula Fords in any form including Classic 2 litre don't fit into that description. Has anyone mentioned JEDI's, they are a quick car, but I don't know much about them.
The 8 valve Renaults were just about the quickest thing around when in BARC trim, but I am sure that will change when they have to run at 40mm ride height this year even though a few of the ( previously ) BARC controls are being relaxed. My guess is that the fastest cars available for your money will now be the 2 litre cars at the front of Mono.

[Redracer77]

Originally Posted by kelvin88

I'm going to try out one of them Revelation cars in January. Im not expecting it to be Radical/F3 fast but it certainly seems in on budget!

your a brave man

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Bob Pearson

IHas anyone mentioned JEDI's, they are a quick car, but I don't know much about them.

Yes, see post #3 but surprisingly no one took the bait. I don't know anything about them either, except that i wouldn't want to crash in one (or a Revelation).

[Bob Pearson]

Originally Posted by andy97

Yes, see post #3 but surprisingly no one took the bait. I don't know anything about them either, except that i wouldn't want to crash in one (or a Revelation).

I know they are extremely light, that must be where their speed comes from. The engines are light, whether they chassis follows suit I don't know. What are these Revelation things?
Now its me thats veering off topic.

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by Bob Pearson

....... What are these Revelation things?
Now its me thats veering off topic.

<staying off topic>
info here
http://www.revelationmotorsport.com/

[Bob Pearson]

Well, its a job to argue with those prices. If the times are true its pretty quick too.

[mawds21]

i've had a look at some of the jedi times (and prices too). but i am slightly put off by the fact they look about as safe a racing a Rotax Max....or a superbike

[MattW]

Originally Posted by Bob Pearson

I know they are extremely light, that must be where their speed comes from. The engines are light, whether they chassis follows suit I don't know. What are these Revelation things?
Now its me thats veering off topic.

Hi Bob, Imagine a Formula First running a bike engine with Reliant Robin bodywork and you wouldn't be too far off.

[MattW]

My opinion is for that money your best bet would be a 8v Formula Renault or a FFZetec racing in the 750mc.

The 750 F4 has close racing with a good mix of cars and driver ability.

I would go for a Standard Zetec which you could convert to a class A car at a later date. A quick reliable car with its own class.

[mawds21]

so how do i go about using a FFZetec in F4. do i just buy a standard fford (something like this http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin..._For_Sale.html) and attach nose and tail wings?

[mrsweety]

Originally Posted by mawds21

Apologies if this has been done before, but........what are the quickest cars you could buy and race for a budget of roughly £10k (max) for the car, and £7k (max) for the season?

so far i've researched the following:

Radical Clubsport
Monoposto
Formula 4

i dont particularly want to do hatches or saloons, so ideally some sort of sportscar or single seater.

thans in advance

http://www.250superkarts.com/

[kelvin88]

Originally Posted by mrsweety

http://www.250superkarts.com/

Yup! You thought Jedis was dangerous, this will sort you out!

[mawds21]

heh! i think i'd prefer to race something that doesnt require leather overalls

[FFmygale]

Originally Posted by mawds21

so how do i go about using a FFZetec in F4. do i just buy a standard fford (something like this http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin..._For_Sale.html) and attach nose and tail wings?

Yep, something like that - although, for Zetecs, I would consider a Mygale or a Van Diemen a much better bet. Reason being, not only are they likely to be more competitive, but also the bits are much more readily available and the resale value will likely hold up better.

[Redracer77]

Originally Posted by FFmygale

Yep, something like that - although, for Zetecs, I would consider a Mygale or a Van Diemen a much better bet. Reason being, not only are they likely to be more competitive, but also the bits are much more readily available and the resale value will likely hold up better.

If you ask FFmygale nicely he might sell you his Mygale FF. Great car and on the button. Selling that should free up just about enough cash to fund your F3 engine rebuild this winter!!!