Chevron B42

[Dan Rear]

Anyone remember the ex-Ago/Voxson B42? I think Ken Brill used it a bit in Aurora in 79, after damaging the ex-Kim/Villeneuve B34D. Where did it go after Brill. He was never a star was he ...

[Jeremy Jackson]

Brill did use the ex-Ago B42, chassis 14, just the one Aurora race at Mallory I think, but don't know where it went from there.

[Chris Townsend]

Jeremy/Dan

Properly speaking discussion of the Agostini - Brill car should be on the B40-45 thread... But let's not have that here.
I think Brill was the slowest driver I ever saw in a race car [tho. Otto Stuppacher in his March 761 was close] you could have lapped him in an FF2000.

Anyway, here is the Chevron B42 summary to spark further debate:

Chassis 1: 1977: Works: Patrese (Japanese GP) 1978: Steve Millen (NZ) retained 1979; 1980 Bob Donaldson
Chassis 2: Works ICI: Riccardo Patrese/Derek Daly; 1979 perhaps to John Stokes (Described in 1980 ad as ex Daly); 1981 Patsy McGarrity
Chassis 3: Trivatello: Beppe Gabbiani
Chassis 4: Harald Ertl->Willi Siller (unraced) 1979: Willi Siller
Chassis 5: John David Briggs; 1979: Brian Robinson; 1980: Bob Howlings; 1981: Bob Howlings [though AS gives as 01 at Silverstone F2]; 1982: Stuart MacPherson [FL]
Chassis 6: Opert: Boy Hayje
Chassis 7: Everest: Elio de Angelis; unknown to 1981, then Bill Lord [Scotland]
Chassis 8: Works ICI: Derek Daly/Nigel Mansell; 1979: perhaps to Gary Gibson (FAt) (described in press as ex Daly) retained to 1981
Chassis 9: Works ICI: Jochen Mass/Patrick Tambay/Arturo Merzario/Giancarlo Martini/Jean-Pierre Jaussaud/Harald Ertl [Hockenheim]/My Aunt Edna; 1979: Germaine Garon/Herv é Regout
Chassis 10: Briggs: Don Briedenbach [F1R attribution but maybe the Cinotti car]
Chassis 11: Chevron didn’t usually build an 11 [but might be Cinotti’s car if 10 really does go to Briggs]
Chassis 12: Opert: Eje Elgh
Chassis 14: Trivatello: Giacomo Agostini; 1979 Ken Brill
Chassis 15: Opert: Keijo Rosberg; 1979: Phil Bennett then to Dave Rackham (FAt); 1980: David Mercer (FAt) retained 1981 then at some point to Antonia Loysen [FL]
Chassis 16: Briggs: John David Briggs; 1979: Warren Booth; 1980: Jim Evans
Chassis 17: Briggs; 1979 Brian Robinson retained to 1981
Chassis 18: Jack Kallay: Geoff Lees
Chassis 19: Briggs; 1979: Tony Dean/Brian Robinson; 1980: Brian Robinson
Said to be 21 built so these problem cars could be accommodated there:

Tomy Racing: Masahiro Hasemi [late season car, retained 1979]
Sandro Cinotti [debuts mid season after using a B40. May be the B40 updated; may be 10; 11 or a later number]

1979
Wayne Wainwright [British Atlantic]
John Stokes (Described in 1980 ad as ex Daly)
1980
Kiyoshi Misaki [appears Suzuka F.Pac with Toyota engine
Dave McMillan [appears Suzuka FPac with Nissan engine DNS]

[Dan Rear]

B42-02, did Patrese use this one in 78? I'd thought he was largely out of Euro F2 at the end of 77. Also, which ICI car did de Angelis have from mid-78 on, after he'd left Everest, -8 perhaps ? I agree there seemed to be a good few 'ex-Daly/ICI' cars in UK in 79.

The Stokes/Wainwright B42 in UK Atlantic 79, I think they only had 1 car between them, owned by JS I thought.

I still think Briggs only had 4 in 78, don't believe F1R is right on no 10, so maybe Cinotti had this one after all.

Back to Mr Brill, didn't he have a Lotus 69 in some Libre races prior to his Aurora adventures ? When you say lap him in an FF2000, after how many laps would that be !!!

[Jeremy Jackson]

Continuing with B42s, Loysen was driving /15 in the mid-80s, and Terry Murphy had it by the time of the HSCC Chevron meeting at Donoington in July 1990. Bill Gowdy was also driving 08 at this meeting.

Peter Taylor drove a B42 in some 1985-86 Libre races, I think this was the ex-McPherson 05.

[Patrese256]

Originally posted by Dan Rear
B42-02, did Patrese use this one in 78? I'd thought he was largely out of Euro F2 at the end of 77.

Riccardo used the B42 at Nurburgring (rnd 3 of the 1978 F2 championship) - picture

[allenbrown]

To answer Dan's original question, the ex-Ago/Brill B42 turns up in Terry Fisher's hands at the Snetterton Aurora 10 Aug 1980. From there, it may have gone to Ray Rowan - we're discussing this on the B48 thread at the moment as Rowan's Chevron has been identified as a B48 (as well as a B45, a B40 and now a B42!).

Allen

[Dan Rear]

Anyone know about -16, after Warren B in 1979, and apparently owned, but not raced I'm sure, by Jim Evans in 1980 ??

[Bryan Miller]

Chris et al ,

Somwhere we have lost some of this thread in our cutting and pasting.

B42-78-01 is in Australia , has been for yonks , since 1981 to be prescise , Patrese/works - Donnington then to Steve Millen ran it in the NZ Series 1978 and 1979 and by 1982 sold to Wayne Ford of Melbourne 1982-1985 thence Wayne Walker 1985-1988 then Murray Bateson 1988-1999 then to Peter Larner.

Letter from David Gordon [ author Chevron book ] advises Patres used his regular blue B40 had been shipped to Japan and Chevron were not saying much about the new car except is had the monoque from the new B45 , 1978 front suspension , current rear suspension and clothed in a B40 body. all quoted from Motoring News race report from Donnington. The car was actually entered as a B40.

Bryan.

[allenbrown]

Another link in the B42-14 chain: David Winstanley (Lodge Corner) had it in March 1979 but "wasn't sure what to do with it". Autosport 29 Mar 1979 p45.

[allenbrown]

Just to bring this thread up to date with developments on the B48 thread, we now know that B42-78-14 went to Ray Rowan after Terry Fisher, was modified to B48 spec and somehow acquired the chassis plate B48-79-04. Rowan ran it in sprints (as a 'B45' just to confuse us further) from 1982 to mid-1984. It then passed to Stuart Ridge who ran it to the end of 1987. Then to David Seton in Scotland then to Carl Amos also for sprints and hillclimbs and then lost.

Allen

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by allenbrown

Just to bring this thread up to date with developments on the B48 thread, we now know that B42-78-14 went to Ray Rowan after Terry Fisher, was modified to B48 spec and somehow acquired the chassis plate B48-79-04. Rowan ran it in sprints (as a 'B45' just to confuse us further) from 1982 to mid-1984. It then passed to Stuart Ridge who ran it to the end of 1987. Then to David Seton in Scotland then to Carl Amos also for sprints and hillclimbs and then lost.

Allen

David Seaton part exed the Chevron when he bought John Garnett's turbo charged Pilbeam. Garnett was a mate of Amos's and the car was sold on to Carl. He ran it in the British Sprint Championship in 1995 before he sold it to help finance a F3000 car. I seem to recollect it was sold via Dave Gardner(?) an engine builder but I might be mistaken.

I may bump into John Garnett later this year and will ask if he knows what happened to the car.

[James Murray]

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

David Seaton part exed the Chevron when he bought John Garnett's turbo charged Pilbeam. Garnett was a mate of Amos's and the car was sold on to Carl. He ran it in the British Sprint Championship in 1995 before he sold it to help finance a F3000 car. I seem to recollect it was sold via Dave Gardner(?) an engine builder but I might be mistaken.

I may bump into John Garnett later this year and will ask if he knows what happened to the car.

It was sold from Paul Gardner the engine bulider from Lancashire to Roger Murray who then sold it to Steve Fitzsimmonds as a roller. Steve used it in HSCC DBT in 97/98ish and then my dad bought it back from Steve in some sort of agreement with Simon Hadfield, who sent it to USA for one of his American customers I think. From memory it was the ex agostini car but I have no recollection of the chassis number.

Wish my dad had kept it!!

[allenbrown]

Nice one James. Cue Simon Hadfield:

[Steve Wilkinson]

This thread is delevoping into a relay race. So please someone pick up the baton!

[allenbrown]

While Simon's coming home for tea, how many dates and locations can we fill in for this chain of ownership:

B42-78-14 Trivatello for Giacomo Agostini 1978 - Ken Brill 1979 - Terry Fisher 1980 - Ray Rowan 1982-1984 - Stuart Ridge 1984-1987 - David Seaton (Scotland) - John Garnett - Carl Amos c1995 - Paul Gardner (Lancashire) - Roger Murray - Steve Fitzsimmonds c1997/98 - Roger Murray [again] - Simon Hadfield - USA ...

Allen

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by allenbrown

While Simon's coming home for tea, how many dates and locations can we fill in for this chain of ownership:

B42-78-14 Trivatello for Giacomo Agostini 1978 - Ken Brill 1979 - Terry Fisher 1980 - Ray Rowan 1982-1984 - Stuart Ridge 1984-1987 - David Seaton (Scotland) - John Garnett - Carl Amos c1995 - Paul Gardner (Lancashire) - Roger Murray - Steve Fitzsimmonds c1997/98 - Roger Murray [again] - Simon Hadfield - USA ...

Allen

David Seaton acquired the car late 1987 then ran it in the 1988 season and all the way through to 1993.
John Garnett acquired the car in part-ex in late 1993/1994 selling it on to Carl Amos almost immediately.
Carl Amos ran the car in club events in 1994 then moved up to the British Sprint Championship in 1995.
Paul Gardner would have acquired the car in either late 1995 or early 1996.

[Simon Hadfield]

Tea now finished, 42-78-14 now owned and raced by Peter Gulick in the US and the car (now correctly BMW powered) is looked after by Lee Chapman

[allenbrown]

Thanks Simon. Did it go straight from you to Gulick? If so, do you recall the (approximate) date?

[Dan Rear]

Was this the one Redman used at the Gold Cup last year in Rosberg/Opert colours, if not whose/which one was it ?

[Dan Rear]

The Templeton B42 in Irish Atlantic anyone??? Maybe -02 or -08? Also, to repeat a question I asked before, what happened to -16, the Briggs/Booth car, and -18, the Lees one?

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

The Templeton B42 in Irish Atlantic anyone??? Maybe -02 or -08? Also, to repeat a question I asked before, what happened to -16, the Briggs/Booth car, and -18, the Lees one?

Can I assume that Briedenbach was the only one to drive -17 then?

[allenbrown]

Sorry Dan, I have no answers on any of those. Norman Paine entered a B42 at Silverstone 4 Sep 1983 - we don't know which one he had either.

Regarding 17 and 19, there's a difference between F1R and Autosport on what Robinson was driving. His adverts only mention one B42 (and a B48) not two. All the Briggs cars, 5, (10), 16, 17 and 19, need some careful checking.

[Dan Rear]

The N Paine car I'd always assumed, for geography reasons I guess, was the ex-Rackham/Keke car, -015. Mike Blanchet had a go in it at Mallory July 81.

Of the Briggs 78 cars, didn't Brian R use -17 thru' most of Aurora in 79, Dean -19, and Warren B -16. -05 is the one that Howlings used occasionally in 80. All OTOH I should add ! I don't think Robinson/Dean ever had -10.

[allenbrown]

It may well be as straightforward as that - in which case my data is wrong. I guess I need to leaf through Autosport for 1979 and check.

Was the Blanchet car identified at the time as ex-Rackham? I didn't know he'd had one.