Remove James ALLAN - Improvement to F1's popularity

Daffy_Duck · 23 Oct 2002, 10:14 (Ref:411052)

So no prizes for guessing what this thread is about.

JA has seriously affected our enjoyment of F1 coverage by screaming all the way through every race, often quite inappropriately.

Take the starts for instance. I can't hear the engines, Martin Brundle gets drowned out, and as the cars get away we hear a maniac shouting "GGOOOOOOOO WHHWOOOOOOOOAAA WHOOOAAAAAA"

And at the end of the races, pick the most dull, processional race where you know exactly what the finishing order will be and he pipes up another 50dB and starts shouting again.

Plus the usual outbursts during the race.

Has he got Tourette's?

Frequently, Martin Brundle sounds a little perturbed, even embarrased by the torrent of keich coming from JA. All the while, he mops up the mistakes/misconceptions with his (much calmer) delivery.

Martin Brundle has the ability to make the sport interesting and exciting WITHOUT the need for SHOUTING HIS ******* HEAD OFF ALL THE TIME!!

Maybe we should request that the pit lane engineers fit a CAPS-LOCK key to the back of James's head. I am sure Marting Brundle would at least enjoy a volume control mounted on the bugger's temple.

Sound engineers at ITV-F1, could you please do something about the imbalance. Turn his mike down a bit. Dip it in some custard. Anything!

ASCII Man · 23 Oct 2002, 10:57 (Ref:411080)

Well, maybe he got the idea that shouting adds to the excitement(?) since some American commentators are quite loud, ....................................................

Ooops...

ASCII man, this is a family forum... go wash your mouth please !

Glen · 23 Oct 2002, 10:59 (Ref:411081)

I like him well enough. He doesn't shout as much or make as many silly mistakes as Murray used to. He makes an effort to find elements within the more boring races to chew on. And he's not a big-head like Martin Brundle.

ASCII Man · 23 Oct 2002, 11:00 (Ref:411083)

Blasphemy! Thou doubt the master of all commentators?!
*points finger @ Glen*
For shaaaaaammmmmeeeee!

josvandeperre · 23 Oct 2002, 11:20 (Ref:411097)

Are you on drugs ?

Another problem with James Allen is he's a big fan of that German - and he's getting to sound more and more like Murray

bastinscully · 23 Oct 2002, 11:21 (Ref:411099)

Quote:

Originally posted by Glen
He doesn't shout as much or make as many silly mistakes as Murray used to.

Murray was getting bad the last couple of years,you could feel Martin`s frustation with him at times.

DNQ · 23 Oct 2002, 11:59 (Ref:411141)

Oi, leave James alone, he is a doing a decent job

ASCII Man · 23 Oct 2002, 12:03 (Ref:411144)

Quote:

Originally posted by josvandeperre
Are you on drugs ?

Another problem with James Allen is he's a big fan of that German - and he's getting to sound more and more like Murray

Some people try to be humorous, only to have narrowminded people stating that those persons must be drug abusers...

To me, there is nothing more insulting than being accused of using drugs, makes me want to hurt that person really bad...

I hadn't hear from Murray in quite some time now, since Imola 1994 to be precise...

racer69 · 23 Oct 2002, 12:10 (Ref:411151)

Don't think he is all that good, but then again it doesn't really bother since Murray is gone.

Ben Edwards does the BTCC for ITV, maybe he could move over from Sky?

At least towards the end of the year James stopped with the 'Ready...Ready...Ready' and 'It's coming...It's coming' when the red lights were on for the start.

Inigo Montoya · 23 Oct 2002, 12:10 (Ref:411152)

I agree with Daffy (welcome to the forum, by the way) - James has_got_to_go. I even prefer listening to the American commentators on Speed rather than Allen. He stinks...

ASCII Man · 23 Oct 2002, 12:12 (Ref:411154)

I prefer sniffing the hair of a very nasty smelling cat than listening to our belgian commentators again, so don't think you guys have it so bad...

Glen · 23 Oct 2002, 12:14 (Ref:411157)

Quote:

Originally posted by ®îjñtjûh
To me, there is nothing more insulting than being accused of using drugs, makes me want to hurt that person really bad...

Calm down man - have some drugs.

ASCII Man · 23 Oct 2002, 12:15 (Ref:411159)

Whatever...

**Adam43** · 23 Oct 2002, 13:15 (Ref:411235)

Quote:

Originally posted by Glen
And he's not a big-head like Martin Brundle.

I'm not on drugs

, and as this is a discussion forum :confused: so, if I may I would like to discuss this point. Well, draw on someone else's opinion anyway. There is a whole page on Martin in Nigel Roebuck's internet Q&A column. And because I had just read this discussion thread I thought I'd post it.

Quote:

from Ask Nigel
Brundle has always been one of my favourite people in the paddock. For one thing, he is wonderful company, and has a great sense of humour; for another, he has the ability to be self-deprecating, and can laugh at himself, a trait by no means universal among racing drivers; for a third, he genuinely loves the sport for its own sake - just look, for example, at the amount of (unpaid) time and work he has put into the BRDC, and into Silverstone.

To read the rest of this go to
http://www.autosport.com/featuresasknigelitem.asp?

J.McClane · 23 Oct 2002, 13:28 (Ref:411256)

I think James is doin' a good job.
Leave the guy alone, he is just doin' what he gets paid for.

josvandeperre · 23 Oct 2002, 14:06 (Ref:411286)

I'm with Adam Ashmore on this - you have to believe Martin is a cool cooky from his apparent relationship with Bernie -he gets to touch him and take the mickey - leaving aside his commentary and the BRDC thing

J.McClane · 23 Oct 2002, 14:35 (Ref:411301)

Quote:

Originally posted by J.McClane
I think James is doin' a good job.
Leave the guy alone, he is just doin' what he gets paid for.

Oh and i think he brings a little exitement to an otherwise dull sport...................well at least he tries to

Damon · 23 Oct 2002, 16:17 (Ref:411360)

For me James Allen on ITV is a massive selling point for sky. He is absolutly terrible!! If you try and watch the ITV coverage after watching sky it feels like their patronising you. While ITV explain what a pit stop is, Ben Edwards and Wattie come out with truly inspired insights into the race.

Mania · 23 Oct 2002, 16:25 (Ref:411368)

Allen unfortunately wont be going anywhere unless ofcourse the BBC once again gets the rights to F1 and toss him out.

Ive always thought Brundle and Ben Edwards would make a great team...Allen is firstly very biased, rarely makes sense and is very irritating.

Damon · 23 Oct 2002, 16:45 (Ref:411382)

Just like Murrey in his last couple of years.

ASCII Man · 23 Oct 2002, 16:47 (Ref:411383)

Was he that bad in his last years??

Raven · 23 Oct 2002, 16:48 (Ref:411385)

I listened to his commentary on the Japanese Grand Prix and thought he was a lot better compared to when he first started standing in for Murray. He now seems to have found a balance between talking about strategy, the British drivers and telling us how great TGF is, along with letting Martin get a word in edgeways.

Who could ITV have to replace him though? - Not Ben, we've got him on F1D+ you ITV guys can't have him!

Speedworx · 23 Oct 2002, 17:29 (Ref:411415)

James Allen does a good job.

Get off his back!!!!!

garcon · 23 Oct 2002, 17:43 (Ref:411435)

The problem for anybody following such a great as Murray is that they will suffer from so many punters saying he's not as good as the last bloke.

Ok, Murray tended to make mistakes (and I think he always did - he was no worse in his later years), but Martin - and James Hunt before him - were excellent at quietly correcting the error and letting motormouth storm ahead...

James Allen isn't as good because he simply hasn't got the charisma Murray had. But I don't think he's that bad, and I do think he's learning the job and improving as he goes.

If ITV ever lose Martin Brundle though, they may aswell pack up - he's the key, the glue that keeps it together, and his knowledge and unique relationships pitside are irreplaceable.

Sato san · 23 Oct 2002, 18:58 (Ref:411501)

I like the passion that James Allen shows for Motor Racing ...but sometimes his style can be a bit annoying , especially the starts ..ARE YOU READY ...ARE YOU READY .......GOOOO !.....it can be a bit annoying .

but it is good to see someone have passion for the sport , and i thought his remarks at the finish line in Austria showed that .

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