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25 Apr 2003, 14:35 (Ref:1581582) | #1 | ||
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Chevron B29
I'm trying to trace the identities and histories of three particular Chevron B29s that raced as Formula Atlantics in the 1976 ShellSport G8 series in UK.
"The Dowsett car" raced in '76 by Phil Dowsett. This car was bought from Chevron in 1975 by Stephen Choularton and raced by him in the team he ran with Jim Crawford in F.Atlantic. In 1977 it was sold to John Ledlie who used it in the Irish Atlantic series. "The Lawler car" raced by Alo Lawler in 1975 [F.Atlantic] and 1976 [Indyatlantic and the Shellsport series]. Probably bought new by Lawler. I think this car may have been sold to Ireland in 1977, either to Derek Shortall or John Eastwood. "The Bailey car" raced by Ken Bailey in 1976 [Indyatlantic and Shellsport series] and 1977 [Shellsport] Probably used in British Atlantic series in 1975 by someone else, maybe Brett Riley or Richard Morgan [entered by Wheatcroft], as the other two B29s used in Britain [by Gunnar Nilsson and Jim Crawford] both went to South Africa in 1976. Any help gratefully appreciated, especially if you think you own one of these cars. |
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26 Apr 2003, 21:24 (Ref:1581585) | #2 | ||
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The Lawler car went to Eastwood, and in 1978 to Joey Greenan. Shortall’s was the car Patsy McGarrity had raced in Ireland in 1975 and 1976
The Ken Bailey car also raced in Ireland in 1978, in the hands of one E. Jordan |
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26 Apr 2003, 23:07 (Ref:1581587) | #3 | ||
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That's a fantastic bit of tidying up of histories for me. Thanks! I'm really impressed with how quickly people contributing to this forum have been able to help here. Pursuing this Chevron B29 thing a bit further, of Irish owned B29s in 1978/79, any idea where the Patsy McGarrity/John Smith car of 1978 came from? And in 1979 I have cars in the hands of Nelson Todd, Ken Fildes and Laurence Jacobsen [in Scotland] and Dave Rackham and Wayne Wainwright [in UK Atlantic]. The Jordan car went to Vivian Candy. Any idea whose these others had been. Also, Jeremy Rossiter occasional and welcome contributor to this forum used to run B29.75.29. Jeremy, do you remember who you sold it to? |
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1 May 2003, 09:30 (Ref:1581589) | #4 | ||
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Chris , isn,t it strange , I own the Eddie Jordan March 74b that he sold to purchase the Chevron.
For your records 2 only B29 Chevron,s in Australia, both of which you can eliminate from your where are they now scenarios. They are B29-75-30 ex Brian Redman Tasman car with 2.0 B.M.W. which was then converted to Atlantic and came to Australia and now runs very sucessfully in historic. Other car is B29-75-05 which went new to Albert Poon in S.E. Asia as an Atlantic and also runs very competitevely in historic in Australia. |
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1 May 2003, 11:04 (Ref:1581591) | #5 | ||
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Totally useless info but the Redman B29 was the only B29 to come to NZ.I saw Redman drive it against the F5000's,he was outclassed by the power of the F5000s.At Pukekohe on the first lap of the GP he went straight through the chicane and lead the first lap,there after he had a ding dong battle with Kevin Bartletts Lola all the way to the finish for about 5th place.David Oxton ran the car the following year as an Atlantic,then the following season they cut the F2 sidepods off it and slimmed it down to look much like a B34 Chevron.I think Heather Spurle was the last to race it here before it went off to Aussie.
Did the 74B you have race in NZ at all?. |
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1 May 2003, 11:45 (Ref:1581593) | #6 | ||
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Armco Bender , no it never ran in N.Z.ex Ireland to Western Australia.in 1979.
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1 May 2003, 21:42 (Ref:1581597) | #7 | ||
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Thanks for your help on the B29s. I knew the Redman car was down under, but wasn't sure where the Poon car had gone after it was advertised recently. Last edited by John Turner; 14 Apr 2006 at 14:06. Reason: Chassis Archive edit! |
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1 May 2003, 23:43 (Ref:1581601) | #8 | ||
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This one is probably more a question for Brian: If only two B29s make their way to Australia, is the car raced by Eric Morgan in the 77 Gold Star the ex Redman/Oxton car?
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2 May 2003, 02:16 (Ref:1581603) | #9 | ||
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The Redman/Oxton car was driven by Oxton in the 77 series still in F2 config,in 78 they removed the F2 sidepods and ran it with a B34 type tub to cut the weight down.Oxton sold it to FF driver Morgan around '79/80 when he bought a Ralt.
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2 May 2003, 11:21 (Ref:1581605) | #10 | ||
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Gentleman,the ex Poon car is still in the hands of Peter Addison in Sydney,who is a good friend of mine and has owned the car for about 2 years ,but gets bored with his new toys or wants something quicker.
When the car changes hands I will advise. Last edited by John Turner; 14 Apr 2006 at 14:09. Reason: Chassis Archive edit! |
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3 May 2003, 21:45 (Ref:1581639) | #11 | ||
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•B29 (29-75-30). Late 1975 works car, raced by Hans Binder at Vallelunga. Then to Fred Opert for Redman in the 1976 NZ internationals. Sold to Oxton who converted to FAt spec and raced 1977. Eric Morgan 1978-81, Chris Read 1982 and 1984. Later to Australia
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3 May 2003, 22:58 (Ref:1581643) | #12 | ||
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B29 [30] where did your identification for Binder's use at Vallelunga come from?
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4 May 2003, 06:35 (Ref:1581645) | #13 | ||
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I'll get back to you on this one!
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12 Sep 2003, 12:12 (Ref:1581906) | #14 | ||
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South African B29's
Chris,
Hope you got my off line e mail.To get the ball rolling,the 2 B29's that came here and are both now restored and running are 29-75-15 ex Crawford and 29-75-25 ex Nielson.The latter might have had a replacement tub late 75 before Rapid Movements despatched it to John Gibb. Ian |
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13 Sep 2003, 17:17 (Ref:1581907) | #15 | ||
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Thanks for your off line message and welcome to the club. I knew that sooner or later this thread would get back to Chevrons! That is really great filling of the gaps. Chris |
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13 Sep 2003, 18:26 (Ref:1581908) | #16 | ||
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I have learnt that the Chevron records are no longer in Dorset. The copy we knew about has gone to Florida but there is another copy in the UK and a nice man who bought me lunch last week is going to try to access the Atlantics. Allen |
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21 Sep 2003, 03:57 (Ref:1581910) | #17 | ||
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Allen.
If the nice man that bought you lunch can be convinced all the records would be better, otherwise we will never know if there are ''strange '' entries re. say a car being converted from a F3 to a F/atl. or vice-versa , or something equally obscure. Why don't you buy him lunch, that should do it. Bryan. |
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21 Sep 2003, 08:56 (Ref:1581911) | #18 | ||
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I bought the previous time! The question is whether to ask for all the records and risk getting turned down or to do it one bit at a time. I trust my contacts judgement on that. Allen |
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21 Sep 2003, 09:06 (Ref:1581912) | #19 | ||
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Allen.
Always a difficult call, that's why I have'nt contacted Bowin again, don't wish to be told to go away, will leave as long as possible. Bryan. |
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21 Sep 2003, 18:46 (Ref:1581913) | #20 | ||
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That's the great thing about being a historian. There's never a rush. Allen |
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19 Nov 2003, 10:47 (Ref:1581933) | #21 | ||
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Brian Tyler (Sth Africa) has two B29s for sale in the latest Motorsport.
One is #15, ex-Crawford/Booysen, and the other is described as ex-Nilsson, though with no c/no reference. This is pesumably #25 |
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21 Nov 2003, 15:32 (Ref:1581934) | #22 | ||
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I posted a question elsewhere, re the Bryce Wilson B29 in 1978. Backed by Cuthbertsons Dairies, I think it had a F2 BDX engine, used in Northern/Scots Libre that year. Anyone no which car, and where it went after. As I recall Wilson came from nowhere, and returned there after that year!
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9 Dec 2003, 17:46 (Ref:1581935) | #23 | ||
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Bryce Wilson B29 anybody ??? Also, and connected, the Robin Smith/Richard Jones March 742, which also ran in 78 Libre/Aurora. Bit scruffy the latter, the B29, quite correctly (!), much better turned out.
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10 Dec 2003, 09:12 (Ref:1581936) | #24 | ||
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Never been able to trace Bryce Wilson's B29 but there are only a few cars it can have been, as most B29s left in Europe have continuous Irish history to that point, and most cars are in ZA or USA. Maybe 07 [ex Derek Shortall]; 17 [ex Williams/Crawford/Birrane]; 19 [Choularton/Dowsett/Ledlie] (probably favourite as that was in N.Ireland and therefore nearest]; 29 Cook/Rossiter. Anything else would have had to be reimported. Last edited by John Turner; 14 Apr 2006 at 14:15. Reason: Chassis Archive edit! |
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10 Dec 2003, 09:14 (Ref:1581937) | #25 | ||
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B29 question for Colin Haste!
Carl Liebich ran an ex Opert B29 in 1976 [an ex Rebaque car] Can he remember who he sold it to? Chris |
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