[iV8SC14R29] Wilson Security Sandown 500, 12-14 Sep

**GTRMagic** · 24 Aug 2014, 07:59 (Ref:3446751)

Its time for the Pirtek season of endurance, kicking off with the Sandown 500, this year presented by Wilson Security.

Lots of damaged cars to repair after Eastern Creek, plenty of drivers that need to get into an endurance groove too.

Not long now til Sandown...

Wonder if Dragon are going to try and make the grid there?

Meantime... who has a good shot here...

Can FPR come back from the dead to get competitive again, or is the championship now already decided?

Hard to go past #1 at the moment, Mr Whincup seems to have plenty of good fortune along with his skills... and Mr Dumbrell is quick in his Dunlop series campaign.

Now long now...

TSR · 24 Aug 2014, 08:21 (Ref:3446754)

I know one thing it wont be a blue oval race win.They have nothing atm

Pro Racer · 25 Aug 2014, 23:59 (Ref:3447501)

For mine the favourites would be in no particular order: #1, #888, #2, #22 #5, #55, #6 & #33.

this time of year is my favourite, love the enduro's.

Reload · 26 Aug 2014, 03:29 (Ref:3447577)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

For mine the favourites would be in no particular order: #1, #888, #2, #22 #5, #55, #6 & #33.

this time of year is my favourite, love the enduro's.

Not exactly going out on a limb there

**GTRMagic** · 26 Aug 2014, 04:14 (Ref:3447589)

Maybe we have to go back to the guessing game of how FPR will make a mess of their enduro campaign

Umai Naa · 26 Aug 2014, 04:40 (Ref:3447593)

I predict #6 and #55 will show a great turn of pace, but will somehow be nobbled by team politics and poor strategy.

Pro Racer · 26 Aug 2014, 06:43 (Ref:3447623)

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Originally Posted by Reload

Not exactly going out on a limb there

I know, still pulling splinters out of my backside.

bathurst · 27 Aug 2014, 02:01 (Ref:3447974)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Maybe we have to go back to the guessing game of how FPR will make a mess of their enduro campaign

Yep, apart from Steve Owen, they're off to a good start at doing that.

Reload · 27 Aug 2014, 06:07 (Ref:3448004)

No wonder Frosty is struggling ??
This quote from the Courier Mail on Aug 25 " I was the fastest car out there for 20 laps. I was hammered by the pit lane penalty and it was certainly a bad day, but the thing we can take out of it is that our race pace was back".

Frosty quote from V8 Supercars.com.au on Aug 27 regarding Sandown " We will be lucky to finish in the top 3 if we keep going the way we are. We are too slow, just not quick enough and you can't hold onto something when you are slow".

So what is it ????

**GTRMagic** · 27 Aug 2014, 06:27 (Ref:3448007)

Reload · 27 Aug 2014, 06:35 (Ref:3448010)

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Personally it was nice to be able to tell the Hornets apart from a distance and it looks good.

Kingair · 27 Aug 2014, 23:27 (Ref:3448342)

Hopefully a nice wet race to sort out the drivers again!

Rainmam VanGis to shine or slide if that is the case!

kerb · 29 Aug 2014, 03:17 (Ref:3448727)

and when Bathurst is done, the GC600 will really throw things out the window. last year car #1 was running away with the cup, and the beach chicane bit hard.

Mixer · 3 Sep 2014, 04:19 (Ref:3449898)

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Originally Posted by Reload

Frosty quote from V8 Supercars.com.au on Aug 27 regarding Sandown " We will be lucky to finish in the top 3 if we keep going the way we are. We are too slow, just not quick enough and you can't hold onto something when you are slow".

Where are all the Fordies now who declared that Whincup was done (and he wasn't that good anyway), and that Frosty had it in the bag?

Shows how dynamic and equal the series is really.

one five five · 8 Sep 2014, 06:53 (Ref:3451177)

They must be struggling for some storylines before this weekends racing?

Apparently winning races at tracks other than Sandown counts as Sandown 500 wins??
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/news/ch...ty-sandown-500

peckstar · 8 Sep 2014, 09:04 (Ref:3451196)

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Originally Posted by one five five

They must be struggling for some storylines before this weekends racing?

Apparently winning races at tracks other than Sandown counts as Sandown 500 wins??
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/news/ch...ty-sandown-500

i have read the article and not sure where it has said that?

**GTRMagic** · 8 Sep 2014, 10:47 (Ref:3451210)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

i have read the article and not sure where it has said that?

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Originally Posted by The Article

3. Craig Lowndes could make history at this year’s Wilson Security Sandown 500 and equal the late, great Peter Brock’s record of nine wins in the annual pre-Bathurst endurance race.
Brock won all nine of his races at Sandown, though Lowndes has won eight across the three different venues that have hosted the annual 500-kilometre race in the V8 Supercar era.
He’s clocked up five wins at Sandown (1996, 1997, 2005, 2007, 2012), two at Phillip Island (2010, 2011) and one at Queensland Raceway (2000).

The writer took some licence in linking Mr Brock's 9x Sandown wins to connect Mr Lowndes 8x pre-Bathurst 500km enduro wins as being comparable.

Maybe it is, maybe it isnt. But they arent Sandown wins...

peckstar · 8 Sep 2014, 10:50 (Ref:3451213)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The writer took some licence in linking Mr Brock's 9x Sandown wins to connect Mr Lowndes 8x pre-Bathurst 500km enduro wins as being comparable.

Maybe it is, maybe it isnt. But they arent Sandown wins...

But he didnt say they were Sandown wins, he called them pre bathurst enduro wins, which they are.

Its reasonable to compare the 500km events if you state that which is what the writer has done

one five five · 8 Sep 2014, 12:30 (Ref:3451228)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

But he didnt say they were Sandown wins, he called them pre bathurst enduro wins, which they are.

Its reasonable to compare the 500km events if you state that which is what the writer has done

It's a long bow to draw in my opinion.

What about the Sandown 500s that were held in 2001 and 2002? The writer seems to use the Sandown 6hr/3hr/400/500 event history up until 1998, and then use V8Supercar history from then on.... given the Sandown 500 continued in V8Supercars absent, i don't see how you can connect the history of the other venues V8Supercars held 500km races at.....

I guess it's lucky for the writer that Brock didn't win either of the 500km pre-Bathurst enduro's in 1977 or 1978

peckstar · 9 Sep 2014, 23:57 (Ref:3451668)

Speedcafe suggesting last years minimum pit stops may be re-introduced again this year

Personally i thought they already were, however the rules had excluded the enduros from this

peckstar · 10 Sep 2014, 00:08 (Ref:3451671)

TWEAKED LIVERY FOR HOLDSWORTH/BAIRD MERCEDES

Mixer · 10 Sep 2014, 02:12 (Ref:3451693)

Sponsorship from the Massive Number Sticker Company?

Interesting to see how this new engine goes, Erebus going about the right way if they want to be strong at Bathurst.

**GTRMagic** · 10 Sep 2014, 02:17 (Ref:3451694)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Sponsorship from the Massive Number Sticker Company?

Interesting to see how this new engine goes, Erebus going about the right way if they want to be strong at Bathurst.

The new engine spec seems to only be fitted to #9 this weekend..

Mixer · 10 Sep 2014, 02:20 (Ref:3451695)

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The new engine spec seems to only be fitted to #9 this weekend..

Yep, that's the smart way to do it. You can compare speed, fuel economy, and they can decide what to do re Bathurst.

**GTRMagic** · 10 Sep 2014, 02:24 (Ref:3451696)

Economy is irrelevant now..

4 Stops Mandated For Sandown

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