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11 Jul 2010, 16:22 (Ref:2724971)
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Lewis Hamilton is the best driver in F1. Discuss
Even after his 2008 title it could be argued that Alonso was a more complete driver.
But the way he has driven in 09 and so far in 2010 Hamilton has surely surpassed everyone. Tremendous skill is one thing but he is now combining it with the maturity of a veteran. His driving this season has been sublime and he is able to eek out great results with not the best car and able to capitalize on his rivals' misfortunes. Yesterday's qualifying which set up today's result being the perfect example. It is looking more and more likely that with a car half a second slower than the Red Bulls he will be world champion this year and deservedly so. *Gets popcorn.* |
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11 Jul 2010, 16:27 (Ref:2724975)
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I think Alonso has the overall edge in terms of being the best all round driver in the paddock. Lewis showed the area he needs to develop more in Australia, where he was relying on the team to make decisions for him, rather than calling the shots himself.
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11 Jul 2010, 16:28 (Ref:2724976)
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I would say he is now, yep.
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11 Jul 2010, 16:31 (Ref:2724977)
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There's not much to discuss. Hamilton is just astonishing. A natural racer, fantastic speed and great instict of when and how to overtake (or take otherwise advantage). Alonso never really was a match for him, even when Hamilton was still a rookie making rookie mistakes, he cracked him up. Plus he is very stable and strong character-wise, more than most F1 drivers. Self-centric enough but not losing touch with reality. Ruthless when necessary, but at the same time foresighted (most of the time). If nothing awful happens, he will stay there for a long time. Probably being the first successor of Schumacher.
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11 Jul 2010, 16:38 (Ref:2724979)
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up until this year id say it was alonso (as much as it pains a brit to say so!!) but after all hamiltons troubles last year hes matured so much, from someone with astonishing speed, to someone who is not just quick, but can manage a race, tyres, fuel, can overtake.....and keep a level head when things are going wrong. to me that makes him the best driver in f1 at the moment....likewise alonso has slipped in my estimation....he looses his head too easily these days. vettel is quick, just like hamilton, but can drive like a moron sometimes and seems to spit the dummy out.....but ive do doubt he will mature just like hamilton.
so yeh hamiltons the best in f1 at the moment |
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11 Jul 2010, 16:46 (Ref:2724982)
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11 Jul 2010, 16:54 (Ref:2724988)
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Thead Open!
I thought his decision to back off at the first corner in the race today, rather than continue to burn up the inside as I think he would have done in previous years, shows how much he has improved as a top flight driver. Best in F1? Dunno. |
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11 Jul 2010, 17:14 (Ref:2725000)
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The best by an absolute mile.
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11 Jul 2010, 17:34 (Ref:2725006)
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Yes.
He's F1's Leo Messi. |
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11 Jul 2010, 17:44 (Ref:2725013)
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By the amount Hamilton gets preferral treatments lately he will be champion at the end of season. But that isn't making him a better driver than Vettel or Webber this year
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11 Jul 2010, 17:46 (Ref:2725014)
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11 Jul 2010, 17:51 (Ref:2725017)
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Who do you think is, MrTTraces?
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11 Jul 2010, 17:52 (Ref:2725019)
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11 Jul 2010, 18:10 (Ref:2725029)
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He's surely one of the best. But THE best? I don't know...
There are a lot of good drivers, and every single one of them has his weakness. |
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11 Jul 2010, 18:18 (Ref:2725034)
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11 Jul 2010, 18:22 (Ref:2725035)
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He is only lacking in experience and a little tactical nous that goes with it. And I mean a little.
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11 Jul 2010, 18:37 (Ref:2725040)
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I would never said this before now but, yes, I think he is. Strangely enough I think he has learned a lot from Jenson this year and that has made him a more complete driver.
Conversely, Alonso is showing signs of immaturity. In two successive races now he has allowed his temperament to get the better of him. The other two to take into account are Vettel and Kubica. Probably not Webber, even after today, although I would be happy to be proved wrong on that. |
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11 Jul 2010, 18:41 (Ref:2725042)
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 Seriously I think he is, he's smooth and consistant. Today he proved it from his poor grid slot. |
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11 Jul 2010, 19:17 (Ref:2725054)
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Sorry, I left Button out of my list of contenders. He should be in there.
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11 Jul 2010, 19:19 (Ref:2725055)
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Yes.
Its obviously I subjective call, but one I am certaiunly right about! |
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11 Jul 2010, 19:33 (Ref:2725061)
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I can't say he's outright the best because he still lacks the ability to switch off at times, however you can see how much he's matured as one of the Beeb commentators said, before he'd try to occupy a piece of track regardless of whether there was a car there or not already. Now he backs off a bit which Sfettel still doesn't. If Hamilton can get his tyre wear levels down to that of Button's then he's totally sorted to take on anyone! (Except Kobayashi without a front wing)
My personal best driver is Jenson for the simple ability to sit behind someone and then pounce or set several fastest laps in a row given clean air. Do wish he'd make it easier for himself on Saturday mind. Him and Lewis on the front row with a couple of safety cars thrown in would make for an interesting race indeed... Of course Fred has six tenths on everyone else. |
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11 Jul 2010, 19:45 (Ref:2725066)
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I agree on Alonso strider. Earlier in the season he was on a par with Hamilton, but he has let his head drop and is making some extraordinary errors. He is making me think back to 2004 now, when he was similarly off colour.
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11 Jul 2010, 20:33 (Ref:2725079)
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I've always liked Lewis because he is an out and out racer, but he has matured brilliantly and would so love to hear he's going to Ferrari at some stage. Although I may have to wait for Mclaren and Mercedes to part in 2015 for that... |
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11 Jul 2010, 21:06 (Ref:2725105)
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I think that there are possibly only 3 drivers who are at the top of theiir game at the moment:
Hamilton, Kubica, Webber (even allowing for that Kovy ram) Hamilton is driving with superlative pace on one lap and a whole race and with steely determination as well as using his brain. Kubica is taking the Renault further forward than one could imagine and perhaps removing that tag he had garnered of being a whinger and inflexible to engineer. He is quick almost everywhere now and beating teams he shouldn't be. Webber has driven to 3 brilliant wins this season as well finishing strongly in a number of other rounds, and I think is most likely to win the title. Of the others: Alonso is still I think potentially the overall best but seems to have gone a bit blip blip crazy as Ayrton used to say. He is ragged in the extreme but he still has time to come back strongly..... Vettel is too busy trying to beat Webber and in doing so is beating himself. Button can't qualify as well as his chief rivals but isn't far off them over a race. |
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11 Jul 2010, 21:49 (Ref:2725125)
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I think defiantly this year. The last 4 races he was finished first and second. And in result getting the maxmium out of the car and carrying that car to those results. Melbourne and Barcelona he would have come second if it wasn't for bad luck so he'd be sitting much more ahead in the championship so without the bad luck from those races he's have been on the podium what literally every race? You can't fault how he's driving at the moment considering the Red Bull is the best car.
It's going to be scary if the updates work at Hockenheim and then for the rest of the season....He's insane. I'd say learn from Jense on how to make good calls and plan out a race and not not rely on the team and do qualifying every lap he'll be complete but that's what he like about him as he always makes things happen.
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